FaceClassic in the finals using Instagib is just wrong. Flag drops would be happening all over the place!

I agree, that tis why I would suggest a different map for the finals. Otherwise this will be more of a battle of who can snipe the best and may get pretty boring by one team who is getting blown out (always one team thats gonna pull away in this match by a long shot and another who will get massively freustrated because they can't get past the plain of there own base without getting sniped out

FaceClassic in the finals using Instagib is just wrong. Flag drops would be happening all over the place!

WHOA, I THOUGHT THE CTF TOURNAMENT WAS REG WEAPONS. :|  

tell me I'm right!  There is no way it can be 6v6 instagib, unless you want every game to go into a 80 minute overtime.

Plus, here is something else to consider about taking face out of the finals.

Every spawn is in the BACK of the base.  The back of the base has 2 weapons, a link gun and sniper rifle.  Not only does a offense player have to battle his way through the base to grab the flag, but also has to make his way down the long run in the middle.  During this time, if ANYONE dies on the opposing team, they spawn in the back of the base, grab a sniper rifle, and the flag runner will probably never succeed unless the other team are really bad snipers.

I've played quite a lot of UT2004 competitive CTF, and I know what the community competitive maps are.  I suggest any of these for the finals: (I have included maps that were not already in the maplist)

Orbital2
Citadel
Smote

Orbital2 would probably be the best, because it is the biggest out of the 3.  If not, then Citadel.  If not, then Smote.  These are just suggestions, take them if you want.

Also, one last thing about the UT2004 1vs1 Instagib tournament.

Why is Gael in the map list.  I would rather play FaceClassic.  Gael in Instagib is just a spawn rape fest.  No strategy, just reflex and spawn rape.  Instagib really has no strategy compared to reg weapons, but you are definitely putting instagib and the tournament on life support with Gael :|  Definitely one of the most uncompetitive maps ever.

Actually, if you look at the rules and regs... the DM tourney is Instagib.  The CTF is regular weapons.

Fragile, one angle you may not be considering is a varied gameplay. By balancing a small map like Gael against a larger, shoot-and-run style map like Grendelkeep you bring out a wider range of skillset. Gael will test reaction time and aim, Grendelkeep more tactics.

If someone really is worthy of a first place finish they will be able to perform well on the balance of all the maps played.

Also, everyone plays the same maps so no one can claim they got a bad draw. Everyone plays the same maps, everyone deals with the same circumstances, everything is even.

Remember, have fun. We're not playing for several thousand dollars worth of prize money like at QuakeCon or CPL.

*sigh*





damnit, I bumped this crap!

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I second that, suggestions are great, whining about maps, not great.

Notice I said "Oh, should be interesting" at the end, because Gael is a random map to play, so it requires a different strategy.  Yet, you are complaining about me when you are going to the same lan as me.

You don't say negative things like that about people when you are attending the same lan as them.  I'm not saying I'm going to do anything about it, because I wont, but it's not very nice. :/

Sorry for offending anyone about my opinion on a map, sheesh. :/

I dunno, I always considered party to be associated with fun.

Amuesment - # a feeling of delight at being entertained
# entertainment: an activity that is diverting and that holds the attention

Pleasure - # a fundamental feeling that is hard to define but that people desire to experience; "he was tingling with pleasure"
# joy: something or someone that provides pleasure; a source of happiness; "a joy to behold"; "the pleasure of his company"; "the new car is a delight"
# a formal expression; "he serves at the pleasure of the President"
# an activity that affords enjoyment; "he puts duty before pleasure"
# sexual gratification; "he took his pleasure of her"


Fun - # activities that are enjoyable or amusing; "I do it for the fun of it"; "he is fun to have around"
# verbal wit or mockery (often at another's expense but not to be taken seriously); "he became a figure of fun"; "he said it in sport"
# violent and excited activity; "she asked for money and then the fun began"; "they began to fight like fun"
# playfulness: a disposition to find (or make) causes for amusement; "her playfulness surprised me"; "he was fun to be with"
# amusing: providing enjoyment; pleasantly entertaining; "an amusing speaker"; "a diverting story"; "a fun thing to do"



Looks like fun is related!