I vote for domination and ditch that damn mod bs. Go Pub style and announce it WAY before hand.

Or have two tourneys, one for pub style and one for DAMN mod or CAL style.

I would be up for that. 

Or have two tourneys, one for pub style and one for DAMN mod or CAL style.

Was just about to suggest this haha

Sabotage is really fun to play, it didn't really catch on when CAL had a league for it though.  It's traditionally been s&d throughout CoD league play and people don't want to shift away from it, but I'd be up for sabotage as well

With what time?

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Also, how are you going to ready up? You know to make the match live? That's also what the mod does. What about alternatives to being a JUST pub server?

I would go for a Damn mod sabotage or domination map style.  Or we find a mod that can unlock all weapons and add the ready up feature.  Like this one:  http://www.modcod4.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?863

Quote from: The Shoctor on March 04, 2009, 11:43:00 AM

With what time?

EDIT:
Also, how are you going to ready up? You know to make the match live? That's also what the mod does. What about alternatives to being a JUST pub server?

I would go for a Damn mod sabotage or domination map style.  Or we find a mod that can unlock all weapons and add the ready up feature.  Like this one:  http://www.modcod4.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?863

The mod you listed is basically a pub server mod w/ ready up... 

I think Mohalla is bringing up good points with mods/retail play like this removing the skill gap, all mods like this are doing unlocking everything, and let the best random shot get the win.  I don't see where this is coming into play when your in a competition and trying to prove who the best players are.

I do understand that you guys are upset that some of your favorite weapons/perks were removed, but are they really the only weapons/perks you can use?  We all know that quite a few combinations are cheap and garbage, we even ask people to not use certain things during our small LANs.

I don't object to using another mod at all, but it should be something that is based around keeping fair competitive play, showing who has the best shot, not who has the best random shot.

Also, I don't believe having two tournament setups for this game is even close to being feasible (due to time restraints).  If your only worried about your K:D ratio then take it to a pub or open play server, but if your wanting to see who the best players/teams are, then sign up for the tournament and have a fair competition. 



EDIT:  Also as Mohalla mentions, we can modify the current configs using PAM/DAMN/ProMod to hopefully satisfy all, but again modifications should be picked with keeping competitive play in mind, not pub action.

The mod you listed is basically a pub server mod w/ ready up... 

I think Mohalla is bringing up good points with mods/retail play like this removing the skill gap, all mods like this are doing unlocking everything, and let the best random shot get the win.  I don't see where this is coming into play when your in a competition and trying to prove who the best players are.

I do understand that you guys are upset that some of your favorite weapons/perks were removed, but are they really the only weapons/perks you can use?  We all know that quite a few combinations are cheap and garbage, we even ask people to not use certain things during our small LANs.

I don't object to using another mod at all, but it should be something that is based around keeping fair competitive play, showing who has the best shot, not who has the best random shot.

Also, I don't believe having two tournament setups for this game is even close to being feasible.  If your only worried about your K:D ratio then take it to a pub or open play server, but if your wanting to see who the best players/teams are, then sign up for the tournament and have a fair competition. 



EDIT:  Also as Mohalla mentions, we can modify the current configs using PAM/DAMN/ProMod to hopefully satisfy all, but again modifications should be picked with keeping competitive play in mind, not pub action.

Having all the guns and perks available in the game doesn't make it a random chance of killing someone.  There is still a large amount of skill and part of that skill is creating an effective package for your gaming style.  I agree there are some cheap combos and tactics (mouse wheel fire bind) and those need to be addressed in the rules.  As much as I rail against F3ar0n for his hacked silenced skorpion, I know it isn't just shoot somewhere in the vicinity of the opposing player and he dies, because I have used the weapon myself. 

If the game itself wasn't fair and competitive it wouldn't be played online to the degree it is.  I have come across some games where there is one or two overpowered classes or cars and no one uses anything else, and the online play suffered from it because there was no variety.

I know it isn't just shoot somewhere in the vicinity of the opposing player and he dies, because I have used the weapon myself. 

Well, that's just the problem with all the perks/guns unlocked.  Steady aim p90s ruled the day during early scrims because they could take out anyone in 2-3 hits even at a decent distance, and all you do need to do for that to be effective is shoot into the other player's vicinity.  Autosnipers could be used to pick people by just clicking a lot near them rather than aiming for chest/head, and deep impact RPDs destroyed people who were behind cover by just holding in the trigger and guessing.

Believe me, this was a hot debate for months while leagues tried to get a ruleset nailed down.  They tried out tons of different mods/rules and all that testing has gone into making the more recent mods, DAMN included.  The class and gun restrictions are all there to prevent bad teams from outrandoming better ones.