I don't think that's what he was asking, Dave. I believe he was questioning our move to not use DAMN anymore. And as far as I know, we haven't axed it yet.

either way it's fine with me.  I don't play the tourneys.

I thought at the meeting Travis mentioned right at the beginning that we weren't gonna be using it.  Maybe i misunderstood him.

2 cents:

I did say to pull the mod, but this may have not been a good statement.  There is benefit to the mod and drawbacks.  Ultimately it felt as if search and destroy was hit and miss with popularity.  Since the CS:S is always included in the tourney play, maybe Fites would be safe having the game type one where players are going non-stop (TDM, Sabotage, etc).  There are some quarks with running TDM without the mod, but maybe there is a way around it.  I do not have enough experience to make the judgment call.

We can limit weapons / perks already with mods (hell even limiting how many can use a particular weapon on a team like in cs and the awp). I don't have an issue with limiting perks or weapons, my only main complaint is limiting a team to only 5 weapons (which all but the m4 I don't use at all). Complaints like shooting through walls with the rpd are part of the game play. We can't please everyone but on the same sense we shouldn't ruin a game which can be  argued as one of the best multiplayer games to come out since UT 2004. Again if activision felt that these "problems" were game breaking, they would released a patch to fix it. I think we should play the game straight up with the exception of last stand and martyrdom. I see players play the mp5 and mop up pubs (mp5 being one of the first weapons you get in the game)

There is more skill showed in team events with good teamwork and communication vs any "overpowering" weapon layout. I've still seen teams fail despite the fact that they had FAR more kills than the other group (case in point, 3 weeks ago FITES did a SAB match I believe on showdown if memory serves me right...we camped that spawn for good 8 min but could never get a plant...they pushed and planted in 2 min and won the match) We should stick with what works, which it seems Damn mod doesn't  really. I've heard a ton of feedback from numerous people who were really put off with its use. CoD's popularity shows me first hand that we shouldn't try to fix something that imo isn't really broken to begin with

DAMN mod doesn't just limit perks and weapons, it changes other various aspects of the game play. 

Keep that in mind when you are looking.  You guys only seem to be worried about losing your P90s, etc, and not looking at keeping the game balanced. 

Quote from: The Shoctor on March 10, 2009, 04:56:35 PM

Quote from: F3ar0n on March 10, 2009, 04:45:13 PM

...argued as one of the best multiplayer games to come out since UT.

BAW HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

1 better? I felt UT2k4 was one of the better multiplayer games for a while. Which one did you have in mind? TF2? CS we dont even mention cause everyone knows source is awesome

World of Warcraft... Leaft4Dead...
Look at the numbers of servers out there and who plays what.

Also you only said multiplayer.

I see this thread is getting personal so im not commenting anymore.