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LAN Party Forums => The Swap Meet => Started by: The Nstuff on August 05, 2011, 10:45:19 PM
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http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/08/16gb-hp-touchpad-could-be-at-cheapest-price-ever-this-weekend/ (http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/08/16gb-hp-touchpad-could-be-at-cheapest-price-ever-this-weekend/)
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How quickly things change. Goes from "could be cheapest price ever" to "not even close to cheapest price" in a matter of a couple weeks.
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?p=41819204#post41819204 (http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?p=41819204#post41819204)
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yeah, been watching the thread. They are selling it for $100-$150 now. Most places are selling out in literally a few minutes. Local stores *might* have it. In either case, the huge price drop might be over in a matter of hours.
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Dude in walmart bought two in front of me.... the only two the store had. BOTH 32gb. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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The same overweight twit from walmart was just at staples looking to get more tablets. For his relatives who're "going to college" my ass. My god did i want to punch his face.
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Oh, also stopped in at Officemax when they opened, was the only one there, could've COMPLETELY walked out with a couple tablets, but was told they pulled them two days ago and are "not permitted" to sell any.
WTF.
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Am I wrong for thinking they are still overpriced?
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So, my morning was fun.
I ended up getting a 32gb at HHGreg for $150. They still had it for the slightly lowered $500 when I got there. Took some talking, but they honored the deal.
Staples - they have a few but aren't allowed to sell them at the lower price
Officemax - have them too, but their "director" told them to pull them from the shelves and they weren't even allowed to sell them at the normal high price.
Target - dude said they never sold them and acted all innocent like he's never heard of them. Then after talking some more, he admitted a few others had gotten there before me. liar.
Walmart - Lady behind the counter and 4 other walmart employees literally were looking at one in her hands. When i walked up and asked about it, she said they weren't selling them. I asked if the computer would corroborate her answer and she said "it hadn't caught up yet and probably still reflected some that were available." liar.
Best buy - didn't even try because i heard from slickdeals that they were shipping all theirs back to HP... no clue if this is true or not.
hp.com (and pretty much all other online websites) - sold out
Amazon - still won't lower the price.
HHGREG - was the first person to walk in when they opened at 10am. They had heard of the deal but said the internal memo they got was the deal would start on Sunday. They honored the deal anyway (especially after showing proof that officedepot's website was listed for the lower price on their own computer). Yay for hhgreg!!
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Am I wrong for thinking they are still overpriced?
For $100 - $150, i think it's the price all tablets should be... taking into account they are barely much more than a keyboard-less netbook, and those sell for $300+.
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interesting... shows up as safari on linux
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From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebOS):
webOS is a proprietary mobile operating system running on the Linux kernel
and
The webOS web browser, simply named "Web," uses the WebKit layout engine and accordingly renders pages in a similar way to other WebKit-based browsers such as Apple's Safari, Google's Chrome and Android browsers.
So easy leap from to being detected as Safari on Linux.
(https://thoughtbot-training.s3.amazonaws.com/images/the_more_you_know.png)
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thanks for the lesson, my comment was more about our site detecting it like that. Just wanted to see what it would do.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20095396-1/touchdroid-bringing-android-to-hp-touchpad/ (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20095396-1/touchdroid-bringing-android-to-hp-touchpad/)
Maybe there's a future for your new TouchPad yet!
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:( Still not an iPad.
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I see these fondleslabs as a toy rather than a tool. Outside of the cult of Steve Jobs I only see these as serving a niche group.
I think the PC manufacturers thought that tablets would replace PC's and are now discovering that this is not the case. HP does what HP does best and was at the cutting edge of failure, they smashed their ship into the shores of who gives a f**k. Microsoft and other manufacturers are poised to start supporting ARM and other mobile platforms, the MBA dbag brigade are all salivating at moving PC users into a closed platform where they sell them everything in a DRM/DLC cesspool like gaming consoles are today. Apples dominance over the tablet marketplace and the niche market already saturated I see this as big ideas in a small marketplace.
Long live PC's
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I see these fondleslabs as a toy rather than a tool. Outside of the cult of Steve Jobs I only see these as serving a niche group.
I think the PC manufacturers thought that tablets would replace PC's and are now discovering that this is not the case. HP does what HP does best and was at the cutting edge of failure, they smashed their ship into the shores of who gives a f**k. Microsoft and other manufacturers are poised to start supporting ARM and other mobile platforms, the MBA dbag brigade are all salivating at moving PC users into a closed platform where they sell them everything in a DRM/DLC cesspool like gaming consoles are today. Apples dominance over the tablet marketplace and the niche market already saturated I see this as big ideas in a small marketplace.
Long live PC's
I completely and totally agree with you. ALL webos, ios, and android based tablets are *toys*. You cannot use them as a primary device for anything serious. You could not get rid of your phones and computers and use it solely as your only means of computing. That is, unless your needs can be fully met with surfing and playing angry birds. We are after all a site full of computer enthusiasts, so please keep in mind that I'm talking about this site's target audience.
So, apple/hp/google will say it's supposed to be your THIRD device and shouldn't be thought of as a primary. Do serious work on your main computer, do mobile stuff on your phone... and if you happen to sitting on your couch and you like holding something relatively heavy up with your one arm and smudging the screen with your other hand, then the tablet fills that nitch.
If a modern tablet was a light as a kindle, then that would be one thing, unfortunately they are not. They are a toy with very few uses and it's fun to touch webpages and make them fly around and pinch and zoom and whatnot. So then comes the kicker... is it really worth $500+ for a toy that is a third device with a very limited use? Hell no. is it worth $100-$150? Hell yeah. Thus why i bought the touchpad 32gb. I still have to force myself to use it only for the novelty of it and i'm already working on hacking it (it's actually incredibly easy to do).
The only serious tablet I would contend to be more than a toy would be a good convertible laptop... those with the swivel screens which still support multi-touch, but can be used as a traditional laptop when you want to do serious work. I don't know why they haven't really caught on. You have the best of both worlds, full laptop when you need it, fully-touch tablet when you want to just play around. The worst thing is the weight, but since the screen swivels around, it can actually hold itself up and not need some accessory to remember to bring with you to do the same.
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I would like to see additional development into smart phones, adding more connectivity and better hardware would make it very useful as a way to take your PC with you. I think Motorola had the right idea with the Atrix but went about the implementation wrong.
I think cars are a great example. Smart phones come with GPS now, why bother with buying single purpose navigation devices? More cars are starting to interact with phones using bluetooth as well. Move that interaction into the home / office where the PC is not, like build a feature set into TV's. There are some major hurdles to this like streaming media legally that would kill any of the obvious killer apps. This is a golden time for the RIAA/MPAA to join the 21st century (There arent many left to them) so they will do what they do best and make it tough for consumers to justify paying them to be abused.
I will say that JR's fondleslab looked nice and he seemed to find some great use, I just see myself using one (I guess to put your point about who we are as a audience vs the rest of the world into context).
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:( Still not an iPad.
I like apple's hardware... their software, on the other hand, should rinse its mouth out with buckshot
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I dunno about toys..... more like casual tools. I want one to a) look up game info without having to alt-tab or while playing a console game, b) call people over google voice/skype without having to boot up my desktop, c) tether to my g/f's phone so I can use google maps while we're traveling (so she doesn't have to try and look at her tiny phone screen while she's driving), d) watch videos while in the passenger seat in a car, e) entertain her kids with, f) use as a XBMC controller.
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More news... apparently HP decided to BUILD MOAR TOUCHPADS to fullfill unspecified demand. IE, they won't say how many are expected to want it... how many they are making, nor are they promising those that want one will get one. They also aren't saying if the new batch will be priced the same as the last batch.
latest info here:
http://h20435.www2.hp.com/t5/The-Next-Bench-Blog/More-TouchPads-on-the-Way/ba-p/68749 (http://h20435.www2.hp.com/t5/The-Next-Bench-Blog/More-TouchPads-on-the-Way/ba-p/68749)
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... I thought they were loosing money on each one they sold... yeah makes sense.. make MOAR!!!?
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Corportate Suicide (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/08/26/businessinsider-hp-is-committing-corporate-suicide-says-former-director-2011-8.DTL)