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LAN Party Forums => Support Group => Started by: triggerhappy on November 13, 2009, 07:01:10 PM
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Hello, I currently administer a network of primarily comprised of Windows XP computers but my boss recently purchased a Vista laptop that will not obtain a DHCP lease over wireless. Other laptops running XP, and my own which runs 7 and Ubuntu, can all obtain leases over the wireless. Additionally, DHCP is enabled on the laptop in question and it can obtain a lease both at home and over a wired connection.
I've been Googling this and it appears to be a common Vista issue, however I still cannot get it to obtain a lease through the various tweaks mentioned online and Microsoft's own fix here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233)
Has anyone run into this issue at LANs or on the job? If so, what fixes have been successful (aside from the obvious fix of just not using the failure known as Vista ) ? I do not want to configure a static address since this laptop travels.
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I don't have a direct answer for your question because I haven't had to deal with this myself... but if you don't find a good resolution to the issue couldn't you use the wireless cards management app (i.e. Dell ControlPoint, Linksys whatever, etc) to create a profile that has a static IP for the office? That way when he's traveling he can just pick another profile and doesn't have to go into the TCP/IP setting and change any settings.
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That's a very good compromise. I might end up doing that if I cant resolve the issue. Ultimately it'd be nice just to understand what's wrong with that Microsoft bastard-child known as vista.
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I am interested in this myself, I read about people saying their routers wont work with vista and was completely blown away at how broken the windows network stack is if that was true.
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Vista should have the ability to setup an alternate configuration for the network device. Basically the alternate configuration comes into play when the main configuration doesn't work, ie. DHCP won't respond so it configures itself with a static IP from the alternate config. That will allow you to get the static IP while at the office and a dynamic IP in other places without him having to change anything.
While I was at my last job I had a couple of computers that would do the same thing. DHCP would work for other computers on the same switch but not that one. They were either XP or 98 machines though not Vista.
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I know that would work but it doesn't necessarily explain why the protocol isn't working properly with the DHCP servers at the office. One is a linux machine running dhcpd and the other is actually a windows server 2003 dhcp server :/ . It seems unthinkable that the client wouldn't be able to get a lease on an MS server.
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I just setup static leases at the house for my PC's and laptops and leave them set for DHCP if I go to a LAN or something myself.
Does W7/Vista require some weird DHCP stuff to work?
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Other laptops running XP, and my own which runs 7 and Ubuntu, can all obtain leases over the wireless. Additionally, DHCP is enabled on the laptop in question and it can obtain a lease both at home and over a wired connection.
Windows 7 works fine on the network. It seems like the problem is a big deal with Vista (if you google it theres a plethora of threads related to this issue). My problem is that the fixes haven't helped so far.
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Have you given the old
netsh int ip reset c:\tcp.log
command a try on the Vista laptop? This will essentially reset the TCP/IP stack to defaults and maybe help you get around this oddity.
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Does W7/Vista require some weird DHCP stuff to work?
Never had the problem myself. (pfSense for the DHCP/router and Apple Airport Express for AP.)
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I've been to clients (when Vista first came out) that had issues. Is it up-to-date, SP ?
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I looked into that, the OS is up to date. SP2. I'm just going to make a profile for the network and be done with it. It's the only laptop that wont receive dhcp leases over wireless despite being configured for dhcp.
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So I've realized that all the issues I was having with that laptop were related to a dying WAP. All other laptops had leases because they received them before it failed. Thanks to all that weighed in with ides... this one is just an IT *doh!* for me.