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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2004, 02:55:29 PM »
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ok ... got past the restarting problem ... had to down clock my ram in the bios ... I shouldnt have to do that but with the FX-55 it may just be moving to fast for it when its clocked at 200mhz .... so I had to turn it down to 166Mhz....


Hmmm.....I had a similar problem with an old Asus motherboard. When clocked at 133MHz FSB, the system would randomly crash or programs would lock up. If I downclocked to 100 MHz FSB everything was ok. I checked the RAM with memtest86 in my system and I got a bunch of errors, but I knew the RAM was good. So I stuck it in a differnt machine and repeated the tests and no errors reported. I RMA'd the motherboard and everything was ok when I got the replacement.

What I'm getting at is I think you may have treated the symptom, but didn't provide a cure. You might want to look into the mobo as the source of the problem.
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2004, 03:54:55 PM »
well i am running mem test now and out of 3 passes I have 0 errors .... so it isnt the ram .... ive been reading the MSI forums and seems lots of people are having the same problems .... I think that the 64 bit architecture has problems with the mem tymings for one and they also say to play with the AGP and Mem Voltages ..... so I am gonna do a little playing .... not going to move the voltages a lot cause I dont want to fry my cards .... but supposedly upping the AGP voltages causes games to run smooth for most .... so gonna give it a shot!

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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2004, 03:59:28 PM »
Make sure you put your memory speeds back to 200MHz and select all tests for Memtest, not just the defaults that run automatically. It's a lot more thorough that way. It might take a lot longer time to test, but it'll give you more reliable results.

I'm running an Athlon64 (albeit a Socket-754 3200, not the shpankety FX :bigcry: ) and I've experienced no such troubles. I know tekieB and Xankriz also have an A64.

You guys having any problems???
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2004, 04:56:02 PM »
Memtest ran all tests took about an hour and a half to run 5 passes .... and got 0 errors ..... I am lost ... I honestly dont know what to do .... right now I can get about 1 minute into a game and then it freezes when I try to exit between lag spikes the computer restarts itself....

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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2004, 04:58:39 PM »
I honestly think it is vid

have you tried to run a video benchmark utility on it?  To see if that is what is crashing you?
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2004, 05:17:19 PM »
if I am wrong let me know ..... but anything that would test the video card would also bonce of ohter components in the system ... RAM CPU etc .... so if one would fail .... dont know if that would tell me its the vid card or not.....  


But then again .... I just tried to run a dvd and when it runs it doesnt halt but when I put it in full screen mode .... it looks like ur seeing 3 and 4 of everything ..... so maybe it is the graphics card ..... dunno

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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2004, 06:02:22 PM »
Good point pride. If you want to stress test individual components (except vid card), SiSoft SANDRA is a good program to use. For vid card stress testing, 3DMark 2005 is a good stress test (and Futuremark is one of the 100ML sponsors too BTW  :2thumbsup: )

It looks like you have adequate cooling, but just to eliminate it as a possibility, check your temps too. You should be able to see your vid cards temps in the nVidia driver control panel, and everything else use Motherboard Monitor or something to check for CPU, chipset, and case temps.
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2004, 07:37:45 PM »
Well I fixed the Freezing while in game problem ... had to turn of Fast Write in the BIOS apparently 6800 series doesnt like that running .... but I still get random restarts ... now it seems to happen when I am closing a program takes a bunch of resources .... still got to work on that problem .... but things are looking up .... I am downloading 3dmark05 as we speek .. will post my score when I get done.  Once again thanks for all the help I really appreciate it ....

P.S. if anyone can think of what to check for the restart problem please let me know :)

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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2004, 10:12:48 PM »
I have the restart problem. I think it's a heat problem. Every once in a while I would be playing a game and the computer would just restart. But, since I installed a fan to draw more air to my motherboard and vid card it hasn't happened since. When the computer restarts, check what the temperatures are at the first loading screen. Usually on restart my system temp is around upper fifties (although it's stayed lower fifties since installing that fan). I too have an Nvidia card but it's a Geforce FX 5600 ultra.

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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2004, 10:19:49 PM »
yeah it happens less and less now .... so I figure it is heat too ....


btw just ran 3dmark03 and got 12317 .... my rig is flying!!!

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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2004, 11:48:13 AM »
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I get have way through the XP install I get the blue screen of death with a memory dump error .... I restart my pc ...

When I attempt to play any graphical game (T:V or AA) every 15-20 seconds my video freezes and I cant move / do anything for 5-10 seconds ....


I had problems similar to these when building mine.  Instead of down-clocking the RAM to make it more stable go into the BIOS and bump the voltage to your RAM up ONE increment.  That should stablize it nicely.  Like I said... ONE increment.  I'm betting it's on auto right now?  

And as for your second problem... Did you ever successfully install Windoze without the BSOD?  BSOD during Windoze install=BAD, very bad.  I had to keep re-installing Windoze until I got through it without the BSOD for a good, solid, stable install.  Well, as solid and stable as Windoze can be anyway... ;)  It can cause all kinds of unexplaiable problems if your OS is corrupt.

Sorry to hear about your troubles... :bigcry: Good luck!

PS-I have a Soyo mobo and some other gamer friends of mine have noted that they are notoroious for slightly under-powering components.  I hope this was helpful.

PPS-This is all from my limited experience!  This is what works for me! Everybody has an opinion, take them all with a grain of salt and use your own judgement.   I hope it helps you, should you decide to try it.

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Oh crap... didn't read the second page.  Killboy = n008.  :lol2:  You already got it fixed... Heck, I'll just leave this here anyway...

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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2004, 04:14:26 PM »
well I am still having random restart problems .... mostly when comming out of game and back to windows ... a blue screen pops up for a second and then computer restarts itself .... I will trying bumping up the voltage .... but I have it running at 2.75 volts ... which is what the ram is rated for .... I will try bumping it up to 2.8 and see what happens ... thanks for the posts .

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« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2004, 04:34:45 PM »
You can disable the BSOD reboot by right clicking MY COMPUTER, PROPERTIES, ADVANCED TAB, STARTUP/RECOVERY OPTIONS and UNCHECK "Auto Restart"
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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2004, 04:46:11 PM »
One thing I've noticed about home assembled AMD rigs is that people tend to use way too much thermal grease on the chip and heat sink. all you need is a small dab of grease about 3/4 the diameter of a pencil eraser, and spread it over an area of the heatsink just slightly bigger than the die on the chip. it should be spread out thin enough that it is just slighltly translucent. if that doesn't solve the heat issue, get a slk-800u heat sind and/or a vantech tornado fan. I went from 48c average to 38c average with my rig after I put those two items on the chip (AMD 2500 OC'd from 1.83 to 2.17).

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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2004, 06:12:50 PM »
here is what the BOSD messsage says

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***Stop: 0x0000008E (then some other address)
***nV4_Mini.sys - address ....




Wonder if this has to do with my raid setup or something

ANyone got a clue?