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LAN Party Forums => Support Group => Started by: llDayo on May 03, 2004, 11:09:52 AM
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Ok, I'm planning on getting a new tower in the next couple of weeks from Monarch Computer (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv). I was just wondering on opinions of you guys who possibly know more than I do. Will all the peices fit? Am I getting a decent price? I'm not doing this to brag but I certainly don't want to be spending this much for something that won't work. Here's the details:
Tower: Antec Super LANBoy Aluminum Mid Tower Case No/ PS (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=100260) - $88.00
Power Supply: Thermaltake W0011 Dual Fan 480W PS (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=100970&Category_Code=ps-400) - $72.00
Subtotal with your selected options: $160.00
Motherboard: Intel D875PBZLK i875 ATA/RAID/LAN/USB/DD (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=110163&Category_Code=IMB) - $155.00
Processor: Intel P4 478 3.20 800 FSB (HT) (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=120552&Category_Code=intelcpu-p4) - $285.00
Thermal Grease: Shin-Etsu G675 Thermal Grease - $12.00
Memory: DDR (400) 3200 - 1 GB (2 pcs 512) Corsair - $289.00
Warranty: Motherboard-CPU Warranty - 3 Year w/30 Day - $29.95
Round Cables: Round Cables UV Kit 2-24" IDE 1-18" FDD (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=270157&Category_Code=CaseMod) - $29.00
Subtotal with your selected options: $799.95
Grandtotal - $959.95 (doesn't include shipping yet)
The motherboard, grease, and processor will be already put together and the case and powersupply should also be put together. I'll be doing whatever's leftover.
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Looks great! :2thumbsup:
Only suggestion would be to get a MOBO with SATA on it!
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Sorry bro, didnt click the link, looks good to me!
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Looks great! :2thumbsup:
Only suggestion would be to get a MOBO with SATA on it!
Any chance you could define what SATA does? I noticed in your next reply that everything looks fine so I'm guessing SATA comes on the motherboard, I just don't understand it's purpose, something to do with harddrive storage I think :ears:
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SATA is IDE on steroids. Serial, A T A
First off, the cables are different. They are about 1/10th the size of an IDE cable, and can only go in 1 way, so you cant mess it up.
Also, there is no longer a master/slave drive. You simply tell your bios which HD you want to boot from.
The data rate is no longer 66/100/133, it is 150. The HD technology is basically the same, it is simply the transfer rate that is faster.
http://www.serialata.org/
Most of the new MoBo's come with 4 SATA ports. 2 of which are usually raid.
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Assume you are pulling vid and aud from your current PC?
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So using my old harddrives won't matter though? They'll still connect correctly?
And yes, I'm pulling my video, audio, network card (might leave it in though, I think the board comes with onboard LAN but I don't remember), and extra USB port card.
Also, one more question, is a 480W power supply enough? I don't know how to figure that stuff out.
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As long as the MoBo has IDE connectors, your old HD will be fine.
480 is probably overkill actually. But it is better to have too much, than not enough.
I have a 400 and I am fine, and I have more devices than you it sounds.
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My question for you is, is this a barebones system that you are having done or are you just ordering the parts and building it yourself? The reason I ask is that most motherboard and cpu manufacturers have a 3 year warranty with their boxed retail components. Why are you paying the $30 for a warranty? Otherwise looks good and I agree with Pride, get SATA on the motherboard. The new SATA drives are getting cheaper all the time. Plus, if you got the cash to spare get a Western Digital Raptor. Those puppies scream. :2thumbsup:
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Thanks for the help, pride! Now, I just gotta run this by the wife ;)
My question for you is, is this a barebones system that you are having done or are you just ordering the parts and building it yourself? The reason I ask is that most motherboard and cpu manufacturers have a 3 year warranty with their boxed retail components. Why are you paying the $30 for a warranty?
Good call on the warranty! They have a free 6-month warranty (the warranty is for the motherboard/cpu combo that they'd put together. I wouldn't even need to pay for shipping if something's wrong! However, if nothing happens after 6-months then nothing will probably happen at all to the setup, IMO. I'll just stick with the free manufacturer warranties after that). Thanks for the heads up! The only things that'll be put together will be the cpu/motherboard/RAM as one unit and the tower/power supply as another. The rest I gotta do (which is basically a few screws and some wires, hehe).
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Alright, I ordered a Translucent case with some little light up fans instead of the case I have listed :2thumbsup:
Now, I'm thinking of switching the RAM from Corsair to Kingston (about $100 cheaper). They're both x2 PC3200 400Mhz 512MB but I was wondering if there's a major difference between the two. If not, then that's what I'd be getting. Thoughts?
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Alright, I ordered a Translucent case with some little light up fans instead of the case I have listed :2thumbsup:
Now, I'm thinking of switching the RAM from Corsair to Kingston (about $100 cheaper). They're both x2 PC3200 400Mhz 512MB but I was wondering if there's a major difference between the two. If not, then that's what I'd be getting. Thoughts?
from what I've seen of kingston ... their "hyperX" memory line is anything but ... sure, it's PC3200 or PC4000 ... but look at the CAS ratings ... 9-4-4?! WTF ... I'd MUCH rather pay the extra $100 and get 8-3-3 from crucial, or ... if you have the money to spend, get 1GB of GieL PC4000 with CAS ratings of 7-2-2 .... that stuff will SCREAM!
also, kingston doesn't guarantee that "packs" of ram (i.e 2x512MB sticks) will be from the same "pressing family" thus, they may not work 100% with dual channel setups ...
I've got 1 GB of PC4000 ram, samsung brand ... it's 8-3-3 and same press family ... couldn't be happier :)
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Hmmm, I never knew anything about CAS latency. Well, after a little more searching I may get two of THESE (http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-833&depa=0).
OCZ Performance Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200, CAS latency of 2-3-3-6, Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s. Whaddyatink?
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I've heard mixed things about the OCZ stuff. It's either worked fantastically, or failed miserably.
My pick is your original setup with Corsair Twin-X. Yes, it's more expensive, but you will have zero regrets. It performs with no holds barred and overclocks better than any other brand I've seen, not to mention complete stability.
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Hmmm, I never knew anything about CAS latency. Well, after a little more searching I may get two of THESE ([url]http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-833&depa=0[/url]).
OCZ Performance Series 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200, CAS latency of 2-3-3-6, Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s. Whaddyatink?
I've never had a problem with OCZ (it's in my rig right now)
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Is there a way to connect Parallel ATA drives up to Serial ATA connections? I'm probably going to get SATA but right now I only have PATA drives.
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I believe there are juntion adapters...
Yup! http://www.mittoni.com.au/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/1383
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And another: Newegg - http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-999-402&depa=0
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Thank you, sweaty :angel:
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Is there a way to connect Parallel ATA drives up to Serial ATA connections? I'm probably going to get SATA but right now I only have PATA drives.
the links pride provided work great ... but look at it this way ... what are you gaining? you're still stuck at ATA133 or 100 or whatever your PATA drives are rated at ...
also, if your motherboard has SATA, it should come with one or two of the PATA/SATA converters ... my gigabyte 7NNXP came with 2.
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Yeah, I'll still be stuck at those speeds but I'll have the ability to upgrade to the new standard in the future.
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Alright everyone, I went with the SATA option and the Corsair memory! Thanks for all your help and hopefully this will be put together in time for June 5!!
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Thank you, sweaty :angel:
HAHA!! I love typos...or was it??????
Anyways, I just got my Antec Super LANBoy case today and I'm in the middle of transplanting everything.
I will have pictures and a writeup as soon as I can.
So far, I am VERY impressed and pleased. All the little details were thought of it seems. You'll love the case too llDayo :10: :10: :10:
Now if I could just find my mobo manual telling me how to connect the front panel headers....damnit, I hate this part!
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HAHA!! I love typos...or was it??????
About time someone noticed :2thumbsup: No, no typo here, I seldom make them!
As for the Antec LANBoy I mentioned a few posts ago I decided to go with a different case I had found: Nikao Submarine ATX Mid-tower Translucent Computer Case (http://www.amamax.com/nisutrplatxt.html). I figured a lot of people pimp out their comps while having windows on the sides. Why not go one step further and get a translucent one?? With the lighting effects I'm planning on installing it should look pretty badass!
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That's right. I saw that post, I just forgot.
I've been having a lot of short term memory loss lately. Maybe I'm getting alzheimers... :worried:
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personally if i was going to buy a case (which i am but cant right now due to money problems) i would buy the A-Top Z-Alien, they come in many colors i like the black http://www.a-top.com/zalien/zalien.html
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Sorta looks like Pride's case.
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yeah, and then you can make people think you have an Alienware system and they'd be all like "Whoooaaa...."
And you'd be like "Suckers :devilish: "
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Sorta looks like Pride's case.
(http://www.fites.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/04032004/normal_IM001411%20%28Large%29.JPG)
(http://www.fites.net/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/04032004/normal_IM001410%20%28Large%29.JPG)
Yep, a little bit!
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might i suggest a diff mobo.
Asus p4c800 Deluxe it is one bitchen motherboard.
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Not bad! :2thumbsup:
http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=P4C800-E%20Deluxe&langs=01
(http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800-e_d/p4c800-e_d_l.jpg)
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Gigabyte 8KNXP
the mobo I just swapped into my system (the one I had with me at the lan)
amazing board :D
bit pricey tho ...
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Not bad! :2thumbsup:
[url]http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=P4C800-E%20Deluxe&langs=01[/url]
([url]http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800-e_d/p4c800-e_d_l.jpg[/url])
I second that! I have the P4c800-e deluxe for my gaming rig. it kicks much rear.
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you kids and your P4's ... ill show you all up with my athlon 64
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you kids and your P4's ... ill show you all up with my athlon 64
What athlon 64???
Oh, you mean like the one I have? :-D
(http://24.152.213.63:90/a64.jpg)
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nope, much better then that one...
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but it isnt' in the rig you are on right NOW!