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N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« on: September 12, 2008, 01:33:29 PM »
Here is the current setup:  G+Mimo Netgear router with all network cards in the house running G interface.  The desktop is on the second floor pretty far from the ws router.  The signal strength is sometimes rating at 24 to 36 MB/s for connection speed between the PC and router.  I was thinking of going to a N router as they state to have 10x range over G routers.  The end goal is to max out the signal.  I figure with full signal I can stream from the PC to PS3 without interruption.   Both the PC and PS3 would have G network adapters.

So the questions are

1.  Will using the N router increase the signal strength based on their 10x range claim?

2.  With maxed speed transfer of 55 MB/s, will streaming to the PS3 be achievable.

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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2008, 05:22:30 PM »
You would need N adapters in the PC and PS3 to use the N router.  You can't use a N router with a G adapter.  Kinda like trying to get faster network speeds with a G router when you have a B adapter.
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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2008, 05:28:43 PM »
Amen to that, I went N and never going back to G.

I went with D-Link for my wireless N needs. Had success with Netgear but only with the G series. I picked up the N router for $40 at best buy. Was simple to install.
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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2008, 05:30:36 PM »
If you're only going to have G cards on the devices, the N-router isn't going to do anything for you. You'd also have to get N wireless adapters for your devices, otherwise you'll still get G range and speed.

If you do that though, you should be fine. From what I've read, N will actually take advantage of the echos and interference of walls and other obstacles between the router and your devices. Even with a weak signal, you should see better than 100Mbit, which would be plenty for streaming stuff over your network. I've helped someone I know replace his G setup with N and the difference was tremendous. With G his one son was getting almost no signal at all in his bedroom and now he connects back to the router anywhere from 150-200Mbps.

If you're looking for a router suggestion, the one I'm hoping to get for Christmas is this one. I know the reviews on it aren't great, but they're all related to poor firmware by Linksys and I would be loading DD-WRT (a 3rd party firmware) onto it anyway which would solve all the problems people are complaining about in the Amazon reviews.
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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2008, 05:32:32 PM »
Quote from: Rathe on September 12, 2008, 05:22:30 PM
You would need N adapters in the PC and PS3 to use the N router.  You can't use a N router with a G adapter.  Kinda like trying to get faster network speeds with a G router when you have a B adapter.
You can use G cards, but as I said, you'll only get G range and speed. Most N routers are backwards compatible to G and B, and if you have one of the dual-band routers that can operate simultaneously in the 2.4GHz and 5GHz spectrum, even includes support for 802.11a.
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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2008, 06:15:47 PM »
If your trying to stream blur ray movies from your ps3 to pc or vice versa I hear wireless is still to bandwidth limited for that kind of app.  It's what i heard a few months back from checking it out but who knows maybe somethings changed since then.
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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2008, 06:30:51 PM »
Quote from: sully on September 12, 2008, 05:32:32 PM
Quote from: Rathe on September 12, 2008, 05:22:30 PM
You would need N adapters in the PC and PS3 to use the N router.  You can't use a N router with a G adapter.  Kinda like trying to get faster network speeds with a G router when you have a B adapter.
You can use G cards, but as I said, you'll only get G range and speed. Most N routers are backwards compatible to G and B, and if you have one of the dual-band routers that can operate simultaneously in the 2.4GHz and 5GHz spectrum, even includes support for 802.11a.

Yes G cards will work because the manufacturers are building the routers to be backwards compatible with the older wireless standards.  If it was only a 802.11n router (I remember seeing some of those when they were first coming out) then no a 802.11g adapter wouldn't work.  That was my point.
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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2008, 06:32:24 PM »
Quote from: Dwg115 on September 12, 2008, 06:15:47 PM
If your trying to stream blur ray movies from your ps3 to pc or vice versa I hear wireless is still to bandwidth limited for that kind of app.  It's what i heard a few months back from checking it out but who knows maybe somethings changed since then.
Quote from: Jimmy Carter on September 12, 2008, 01:33:29 PM
I figure with full signal I can stream from the PC to PS3 without interruption.

PC-->PS3. He wants to play content from his PC on his TV over the network. I do the same thing with my XBox360, but all my connections are wired.
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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2008, 07:37:22 PM »
Quote from: sully on September 12, 2008, 06:32:24 PM
PC-->PS3. He wants to play content from his PC on his TV over the network. I do the same thing with my XBox360, but all my connections are wired.

The smart way to do it. No dropped signals; but if you have to wireless is the only other way.
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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2008, 01:04:17 PM »
Quote from: Mr.Tibs on September 12, 2008, 07:37:22 PM
Quote from: sully on September 12, 2008, 06:32:24 PM
PC-->PS3. He wants to play content from his PC on his TV over the network. I do the same thing with my XBox360, but all my connections are wired.

...but if you have to wireless is the only other way.


Au contraire. There's always the RFC 1149 network option. I believe we discussed using the RFC 1149 method for the last 150 MAN LAN, but decided against it because of the inevitable mess from "dropped packets".
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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2008, 01:23:53 PM »
Quote from: sully on September 13, 2008, 01:04:17 PM
Quote from: Mr.Tibs on September 12, 2008, 07:37:22 PM
Quote from: sully on September 12, 2008, 06:32:24 PM
PC-->PS3. He wants to play content from his PC on his TV over the network. I do the same thing with my XBox360, but all my connections are wired.

...but if you have to wireless is the only other way.


Au contraire. There's always the RFC 1149 network option. I believe we discussed using the RFC 1149 method for the last 150 MAN LAN, but decided against it because of the inevitable mess from "dropped packets".


I AM pretty clumsy.
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Re: N router running with G network card / PS3 feed
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2008, 07:20:41 AM »
802.11 N is required to be backward compatible with B/G, the problem is like stated by others your G card will still only transmit at the speeds and range a G card is designed for.  Also when looking at N and the extended ranges make sure your N card is 100% compatible with the N Router otherwise you won't be taking full advantage of the N functions because most manufacturers are using the Draft N specs so there could be some discrepencies between say a Dlink N card and a Linksys N router.

I use a cheap netgear G router upstairs and have my PS3 downstairs and get a great signal, it all depends on what barriers (walls, other radio appliances, metal studs) are in between your router and your PS3.  Obviously you want your PS3 as close to the router as you can to reduce interference but if that's not the case (ie router upstairs, PS3 downstairs) then make sure they are in close proximity on your floor plans.
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