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« on: August 07, 2003, 12:29:13 PM »
W00tz0rs! First Topic!

my mouse lags in BF1942 and in CS (but only using DX in CS, using openGL it's nice and prompt) and in Red Faction II

I have tried a Microsoft USB Optical Mouse, Logitech USB mouse, Microsoft PS2 wheel mouse, and an old Compaq 2 button mouse. Lags everytime under the above conditions.

Is this a DX issue? I tried disabling hardware acceleration for my sound card in dxdiag.exe but still it lags.

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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2003, 12:52:11 PM »
My initial reaction is that it is your video card, not your mouse... any proof it isnt?
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2003, 01:39:53 PM »
UT runs with no lag in the mouse.

Any HL mod in OpenGL runs with no lag in the mouse.

AVP, AVP2 runs with no lag in the mouse.

Video card is a BFG Technologies Asylum Geforce FX 5200 128 megs DDR
Driver is the latest unified driver 44.0.3 downloaded from NVidia's site

I searched for other articles on the net trying to correlate geforce cards and mouse lag but haven't found anything documented to indicate that it would be the video card. A few of them indicated that their laggy mouse problems were DX related.

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2003, 01:50:03 PM »
I understand all that... BUT... HL, UT, and AVP only required an 8 MB card... BF1942, etc etc etc recommend a 128.

That is why I think it is your video card...

1.  Lower your resolution/quality of effects in the games where you lag.
2.  Get a better video card

I have a friend who has an AMD 1.8 Ghz, with a 64 MB card, but it lags until you turn down the res to 1024x768 and lower the view distance and effects quality.

Try changing your video settings (in game) to medium for everything... see if your mouse is still laggy.  If it is, then it is a mouse problem.  If everything is fine, you just narrowed your problem.

DO NOT go by UT, HL and AVP... those are 4-5 year old games.  Test with BF1942 or UT 2003.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2003, 03:41:04 PM »
Well the mouse lag is immediately noticable at the first menu, before any gameplay, but I'll try your suggestion tonight when I get home.

As for the older games. I used to have a Voodoo 5500 AGP 64 meg card and experienced no mouse lag at all in either DX or openGL modes.

While i could not get BF1942 to display correctly using the Voodoo, the mouse didn't lag.  :wink:

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2003, 03:56:10 PM »
I think you are missing the point tho.

When you  had the voodoo 5, and started up BF... the vid card wasnt processing anything... because it didn't know how to.  So your PC was running just fine, and you mouse was fine as well.

If your mouse lags as soon as you start BF... DX isnt even running... it is purely a video issue or a CPU issue.  Since you have a fast processor, what does that tell you?
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2003, 05:52:29 PM »
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I think you are missing the point tho.

When you  had the voodoo 5, and started up BF... the vid card wasnt processing anything... because it didn't know how to.  So your PC was running just fine, and you mouse was fine as well.

If your mouse lags as soon as you start BF... DX isnt even running... it is purely a video issue or a CPU issue.  Since you have a fast processor, what does that tell you?


But DX IS running from the get go. DX handles sound (music and FX) as well as graphics in BF1942. I can't see how the initial menu could be taxing the abilities a 128 meg DDR geforce card.

I've reduced the resolution to it's lowest setting, set the max viewing distance to 10% and the lag persists (even in the menu screen). It doesn't seem to have reduced the lag at all.

I've activated hardware acceleration for sound and turned it off. I've tried all three of the sound quality options. No effect on the mouse lag.

I have shut down every non-essential process in XP prior to running the game, and still the mouse lags.  :(

If you beleive it is still a video issue, can you recommend a video benchmarking application so that I can check to see if the card is operating to specs?

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2003, 08:36:53 AM »
Hmmm... that is a strange situation.  Is your video card using the default settings?  Or did you tweak the settings/overlock it?
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2003, 01:26:48 PM »
(delete this please)  :?

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2003, 01:26:55 PM »
Currently, nothing is overclocked on my system. I am waiting for an 80mm Vantec Tornado to arrive, at which point I'll OC the Barton to 2.1 Ghz or so, but I have no plans to OC the video card.

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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2003, 01:44:06 PM »
I gotta admit, I am at a loss...

Not sure what to tell you to do.
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2003, 10:30:58 PM »
Well. I think i have it figured out. I deactivated antialiasing and anisotropic settings in the nView desk manager and that removed almost all the mouse lag i was experiencing.

Also, i just got a Vantec Tornado mounted on my heatsink. That sucker stays cool now. No more shut-downs! WooHoo!

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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2003, 10:36:32 PM »
Ha! So it was the vid card LOL....

Excellent... I never would have thought of that!
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2003, 03:40:40 PM »
Yah, i guess with those settings on it was too taxing.

BTW I am overclocked now from 1.83 ghz stock to 2.15 ghz OC'd. (17% increase) The chip temp maxes out at 51C under full load (ambient temp in this room is equivalent to Taint basement during a party)

WooHoo.

I think I'm gonna wait for the next gen of ATI cards before i upgrade my video though. Next step is to get some good RAM so i can raise my fsb.

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