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Offline Negley97

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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2003, 07:05:39 PM »
Hyperthreading is over-rated.  We have it on by default from all the new Dell's we get and they run the exact same speed as the non-hyperthread enabled machines that I got earlier in the year.  I was hoping to get better performance on the database stuff but alas Intel comes through with the big goose egg on reliability.
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2003, 03:34:34 PM »
I'm surprised no one has inquired on OCing capabilities or asked what the system in question is going to be used for.

It is my opionion that if you are going to OC, go with AMD. AMD makes over-clocking monsters.  :2thumbsup:

If you are building the system for gaming, again i recommend AMD. If it is going to be exclusively a productivity machine, consider Intel.

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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2004, 05:54:35 PM »
AMD all the way... :2thumbsup:

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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2004, 07:41:00 PM »
My original systems were alll PII and PIII based, once I starting building my own, I went AMD mainly for cost concerns (1/2 the price for teh same power, oh hell yes) ... now that I have some cash to spend, I'm looking at moving back to the Intel camp, purely as a second gaming rig tho, nothing will replace my XP3000+ 400FSB barton beast ;)


I'm looking at the new Prescott P4 3.2ghz HT2 Extream CPU's ... a bit expensive at about $700 each, but powerfull as all hell :D
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2004, 10:29:15 PM »
This topic always seems to spark a huge debate with everyone chipping in their two cents and this thread seems to be no exception. I'm just thankful this hasn't turned into a flaming war with all kinds of name calling and manufacturer bashing (actually, seems kind of unusual for us  :argue:

Anyways....

This is Agent we're talking about here, so the system will most definitely be used for gaming. When it comes to gaming performance, nothing touches an Athlon64. You don't need to go wild and get one of the FX series, I'm talking about a regular Athlon64, specifically the 3400 or 3200 varieties. They will give you the best bang for the buck.

So let's assume the P4EE and the AthlonFX are out of the picture due to their high cost...

Look at these gaming scores from Anandtech. Aquamark is a virtual tie across the board, same with Halo and GunMetal. These are DirectX 9 tests and are most likely video card limited.

On the next page, we see DX8 games and some of the differences start to show through as the video card is no longer a bottleneck. Again, assuming the EE's and FX's are out of the picture, Athlon64's take the top three spots by a pretty significant margin on the Unreal Tournament tests. They also take the top 3 spots in Warcraft III, although not by as big a margin this time.

Moving on to OpenGL performance, the Athlon64's continue to come out on top. First up is Quake III Arena, an old game, but it scales very well and because of its age, isolates CPU performance better than more modern engines, not to mention that there are beaucoup games based on the Q3 engine. Quake III has long been a stronghold of the Intel camp, but with the introduction of the Athlon64 all of that has changed. Still ignoring the EE's and FX's, the Athlon64's take the top 2 spots in this and the top 3 in both Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy and Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory.

Regarding your upgrade paths, see this article about AMD's upcoming core upgrade. It looks like the L2 cache is being cut in half to 512KB, but there will be about a 200MHz core speed update. This can have a negative effect on content creation and encoding, but should not have too much of an impact on gaming performance.

In the end, it comes down to your preference, but given the information above, and the lower price, I think the choice is fairly clear.
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2004, 10:33:02 PM »
:secret: Someone has WAAAAY too much time on his hands haha
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2004, 10:55:36 PM »
DUDE.... i started this thread waaaay back. I already decided.

but i guess this turned into a personal preference topic instead... AMD ALL THE WAY!

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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2004, 11:01:30 PM »
I didn't even notice it was an old thread! I thought it was a little odd that it had gotten to two pages of replies before I even got to reply.

And no I don't have enough time on my hands, I just know the subject well enough to write about it pretty effortlessly.
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2004, 03:44:27 PM »
Just found a bit about AMD's new processor family:

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/hardware/amdhasnewprocessor.shtml

"In a press release deserving an award for obscurity and vagueness, AMD has announced it will introduce a new brand of PC processors to be named AMD Sempron. The AMD Sempron is expected to appeal to value-conscious buyers of desktop and notebook PCs."

 "...We will leave you with the smartest, and probably most informative, comment we have managed to find on the Sempron, ...it has the word "pron" in the name, how bad can it be?"


And AMD's new plan for dual-core processors:

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/hardware/amddoublingpoweranddistancefromintel.shtml

"AMD is taking steps in the right direction, in order to gain a further advantage over rival Intel with the introduction of dual-core processors. AMD confirmed it has completed design of its AMD64 dual-core processors and plans to deliver high-performance dual-core products to the x86 server market in mid-2005 and introduce dual-core solutions for high-end client PCs in the second half of 2005. Intel, having cancelled the Pentium 4 in order to concentrate on dual-core processors, will not have a similar product released until at least 2006."


Once again showing that AMD is pushing the industry further.  :box2:

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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2004, 09:15:22 AM »
Did agent say something?...I thought heard something.  Must be mistaken.

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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2004, 09:37:31 AM »
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Say cheese!

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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2004, 10:16:11 AM »
You better watch out...your system may not function due to excessive dust contamination

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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2004, 10:28:42 AM »
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2004, 01:32:49 PM »
that reminds me.. i'll have to post the pics of my dust filled heatsink. no friggin wonder it was overheating! there was 0% airflow!

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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2004, 02:57:24 PM »
Quote from: "Agent4054"
that reminds me.. i'll have to post the pics of my dust filled heatsink. no friggin wonder it was overheating! there was 0% airflow!


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