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LAN Party Forums => Hardware Discussion => Started by: zx2slow on February 28, 2006, 06:29:12 PM

Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: zx2slow on February 28, 2006, 06:29:12 PM: I havent really looked in a while, but are LCD's still to crummy for FPS gamers? What kind of response time would be not noticeable?
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: TekieB on February 28, 2006, 06:51:37 PM: I'm not that up on it, But IIRC <= 16ms resonse time is generally acceptable for games. The generic cheapo pannels will still be slow, but the higher up ones (dell ultra sharp, etc) should provide a decent game expiernce.

It also depends what you are "used to"
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: zx2slow on February 28, 2006, 06:54:45 PM: I've always used CRT's, I have used friends LCD's in the past but there was ghosting galore. Im thinking about purchaseing a 17" acer with 8ms response time.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: cuzzNkev on February 28, 2006, 07:47:55 PM: I got a samsung syncmaster for christmas and have to say its nice. I still mainly use a CRT while at home, but for LAN'in, the LCD can't be beat.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: Billabond1 on February 28, 2006, 09:03:17 PM: i have an lcd with 25ms refresh rate that i got about 2 years ago. It gets no ghosting at all, but it was very high end at the time.

I know from selling monitors at work that acer stuff in general is junk. It is really worth spending a little extra and moving up to a samsung or something in that range.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: sully! on February 28, 2006, 11:38:21 PM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116375

Nuff said....

But I'll say more anyways. 2ms is essentially CRT response times. I was like you for the longest time, only using CRT's, hated LCD's for gaming because of the ghosting. Then I saw a 16ms BenQ at QuakeCon 04 and my thoughts were immediately changed. Now with times of 8, 6, 4, and 2ms, I can't ignore them any longer. I would still rather wait for OLED displays, but it doesn't look like they'll be around any time in the near future (yes, I know they are used in cameras and PDA's now, but I'm not using a PDA as my monitor at a LAN).
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: The Shoctor on March 01, 2006, 08:37:04 AM: I have an 8ms (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824179018) monitor.. payed a good price and it wipes the floor with my samsung 19 crt in color and brightness and clarity... I was leary of the change, but I never see ghosting.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: _Cloud on March 01, 2006, 08:55:26 AM: Quote from: "ShadoHawk"
I have an 8ms ([url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824179018[/url]) monitor.. payed a good price and it wipes the floor with my samsung 19 crt in color and brightness and clarity... I was leary of the change, but I never see ghosting.

same I have an 8ms 20.1 inch lcd and it is way better then my crt dell monitor i had. Worth everything I paid for.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: zx2slow on March 01, 2006, 04:05:12 PM: I found a 19" 8ms BenQ for ~230 (edit: After rebate) shipped from newegg, all the reviews look awsome and it was $10 more than the 17" acer.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: sully! on March 01, 2006, 05:30:01 PM: Quote from: "ShadoHawk"
I have an 8ms ([url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824179018[/url]) monitor.. payed a good price and it wipes the floor with my samsung 19 crt in color and brightness and clarity... I was leary of the change, but I never see ghosting.

Does that Hyundai come with a 10-year, 100,000 mile warranty?
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: The Shoctor on March 02, 2006, 07:25:28 AM: I don't know... But I have seemed to put a quit a lot of milage on it taking it to LANs. LOL
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: Fabio on March 02, 2006, 11:39:59 AM: its all about the samsung!
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: The Nstuff on March 19, 2006, 12:46:35 PM: Dell 2005FPW. ~12ms response time, 1680x1050 res. Never any ghosting, and games just look soooo sweet in widescreen... not to mention watching widescreen dvds or vids. Tons of inputs and a VERY handy built-in usb 2.0 hub.

Anyone at either the 100 man lan or yesterday's 50 man lan saw it as I always take it with me to lan parties. I don't have any other lcds and i'm not lugging a crt.

Dell is constantly having coupons for these monitors... right now it doesn't look like they have anything going on, but non-coupon price is currently $423 on dell.com.

Reviews are always glowing and supposedly this is the same lcd display as the Apple 20" cinema display, only this has more inputs, pip, picture by picture, usb hub, rotating screen to portrait, and telescoping stand.

Sorry, i think i sound like an infomercial, but I too stayed with CRTs for the longest time because all the LCDs I saw were crap with anything other than excel and word. But this display proved me wrong.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: TekieB on March 19, 2006, 02:22:28 PM: prety much all of the larger pannels are the made by the same pannel manufacturer, just differnet company branding....

this is one time I will say go with dell over apple (but the cinema displays are really sexy)
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: neog0dless on August 02, 2006, 09:58:46 PM: Yo, if you want to check out my Samsung SyncMaster 930B sometime - I think it's great for gaming, and all things.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: Dwg115 on August 03, 2006, 07:05:22 AM: that Benq your checking on newegg has gotten good reviews too. I always go with samsung but i saw that benq and it does look good. things you want in a LCD: brightness of 250 or higher and a contrast of 550 or higher and faster then 16ms. I've had a sony 21inchcrt before i had this 19inch lcd and i like the lcd better it's brighter and is easier to lug around.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: shinji on August 03, 2006, 11:19:26 AM: I've got an LG L1970HR and it works great. However I find running it in analog mode works out better than running it in digital mode. Here are the important specs. 2ms refresh rate (grey-to-grey), 1600:1 contrast ratio (been told its dynamic), and the base folds into the back of the screen for easier transporting. It has a 1280x1024 native resolution but lower resolutions look just fine in games. Unfortunately this monitor only sells at Best Buy so it will be worth checking out if you can get to one or know someone that has one. My cousin has one so that pretty much sold me. It also sold me on the concept of using an LCD screen. This replaced a 4 year old (yet perfectly functioning) CRT screen. Anyone want it?

Btw, I run analog mode because it gives those "in-between" resolutions, better colors, and gets rid of some stupid rolling issue I saw in Counterstrike Source.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: zx2slow on August 03, 2006, 11:24:21 AM: I got the benQ a while ago, I love it, I cannot see any ghosting at all. I kinda want a bigger widescreen one now, 1280x1024 has gotten mundane.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: Coold8 on August 03, 2006, 11:46:07 AM: I currently have a 8ms and 12ms monitors. On the 12ms I can tell Movie Ghosting, but on the 8ms it is practically invisible. Right now I am in an apple store looking at their 30" display, and it looks really appatizing! Only 12 weeks at staples should pay for it! I have to stop buying stupid Crap!
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: zx2slow on August 03, 2006, 12:52:21 PM: I think 8ms and under is ok for FPS, the 2ms screens are getting cheaper now.
Title: LCD's for FPS
Post by: The Shoctor on August 03, 2006, 01:42:35 PM: I can't tell on my 8 while playing games... But I would like to take the time to say, the best hardware doesn't make you the best gamer. :)