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Windows home server 2003 install problem
« on: January 25, 2010, 09:31:53 PM »
So I am building a HTPC.  I got am AMD 5400+, 2 gig ram, currently using on board sound and video until I get the os installed then was going to install the graphics card.  It has a sata blu ray player and a pair of 1TB sata hard drives non raid.  I am using a usb kb and mouse until OS is installed then switching to a mini wireless KB with mouse joystick after OS is installed.

My problem is I can't get the OS to finish installing.  As I said I am using windows home server 2003, an actual legit copy I bought.  The install goes fine until the first reboot.  Then the screen comes up asking for any third party raid drivers, of which I don't need.  Then it says starting windows and hangs there forever.

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Re: Windows home server 2003 install problem
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 10:05:26 PM »
Is the RAID controller enabled in BIOS?  Is that screen the initial install screen again?

Anyhoo after building my own HTPC I can say you are installing the wrong OS, seriously.

Ubuntu + XBMC = OMGAWESOME

Howto:
http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=64680

Baller status HTPC:
http://lifehacker.com/5433795/xbmc-updates-to-911-camelot-brings-awesome-new-look-improved-features

XBMC has a standalone install as well, its linux based but its HTPC only, it wont do anything else.  Ubuntu is light weight and will still allow you to use it as a NAS or whatever.

If you are using Nvidia graphics even better, VPDAU works out of the box and will decode x264/Blu-Ray to look better than thousand dollar disk players.  The downside is that you have to rip the blu-ray disks because Linux doesn't have HDMI drivers (yet).  You can encode them into x264 and a 720p Blue-ray rip will be ~1.5-3GB.

I built a Intel Atom/Nvidia ION box with 4GB of ram in a Chenbro es34069, its got 4 hot swap 3.5" bays up front and Im booting off an internal 250GB laptop disk.  I keep filling the slots with 2TB disks as my library expands.  I had planned to use it to watch Netflix streaming video but after watching a few the steaming looked too bad on a large flatpanel.
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Re: Windows home server 2003 install problem
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 10:15:31 PM »
I actually wound up getting a ps3 so I will be putting this blu ray player in my main pc.  Mainly using this system to rip all my dvds to files for easy playback.  Also using it for network storage and backup.  Will also be nice to easily access the computer for outside my network over the internet.  I am not a linux geek and don't really have time to learn it.  Hopefully someday.
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Re: Windows home server 2003 install problem
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 11:56:31 PM »
Woohoo!  Got it figured out.  After a lot of digging I found an obscure command windows does not tell you about during setup.  When the pc hangs at this install point instead of hitting F6 for driver install hit F5 and it takes you to a menu to select your HAL.  Oddly enough even though this is a dual core cpu I had to select the third option listed below...

Taken from HOW TO: Specify a Specific or Third-Party HAL During Windows Setup

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This article describes how to specify a specific or third-party hardware abstraction layer (HAL) during Windows Setup.

Selecting a specific or third-party HAL during Setup should be necessary only if you have a HAL provided by a third party, or if Windows Setup does not detect your hardware correctly.

Note This procedure works only when installing from a CD-ROM. When installing from setup boot floppies, a problem in the installation program prevents the installation of a third-party HAL.

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Selecting a HAL During Setup

   1. During the first phase of Setup, at the Setup is inspecting your computer's hardware configuration screen, press the F5 key.
   2. Select the appropriate HAL, or Select Other to specify a third-party HAL. The available HALs include:
          * ACPI Multiprocessor PC
          * ACPI Uniprocessor PC
          * Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC
          * Compaq SystemPro Multiprocessor or 100% Compatible
          * MPS Uniprocessor PC
          * MPS Multiprocessor PC
          * Standard PC
          * Standard PC with C-Step i486
          * Other
   3. Continue with Setup to complete the installation.
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Re: Windows home server 2003 install problem
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 08:08:37 AM »
Even if you don't want to go with Linux I agree you installed the wrong OS.  Unless you are going to create a domain and run your home network on that server 2003 isn't the way to go.  Windows Home Server will allow you access to your system right out of the box.  It is based on Windows Server so it has all the functionality of the Server OS but it doesn't force systems to be on the domain to access resources.  The storage pool is a nice feature as well.  Throw in as many drives as you want and they all are combined into a single drive on the network.  I currently have 7 drives in my system making a 1.5 Tb drive that I dump all my data on. 
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Re: Windows home server 2003 install problem
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 10:52:53 AM »
This is windows home server, I just added 2003 at the end because I thought I was cool =oP.  Rathe I only got it because YOU told me to lol.  I guess it is just home server without the 2003.

Anyway if you were over here last night I woulda kicked you in the nuts.  6am Paul, I was messing with that pc until 6am.  Besides the above mentioned install problem do you have any idea what I went through to find drivers for an nvidia chipset with integrated video, audio, and lan?  DO YOU!?!?11/wtfbbq!/1!?

But, I do have to say after I finally got everything installed and got to play around with it I am finding I really like it.  I'm anxious to see if the remote access through the net works as that would be sweet.  I installed my dvr software for my security cameras and it works like a charm.  In all I can say that so far I am happy.  Now I have to run off and buy mass effect 2!

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Re: Windows home server 2003 install problem
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 11:31:46 AM »
One thing about the remote access.  Once you setup your url for the server you have to make sure you use IE to login to it when you are away.  I tried for the longest time using firefox and I never got my computer list for remote logins.  No errors and no appearance of any problems, I just didn't get the computer list for remote login.
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Re: Windows home server 2003 install problem
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2010, 02:33:41 PM »
It may use an active x control.  I found the same problem using remote login for my dvr camera software.  Gotta use IE to install the plugin to allow me to see my video feeds through the network.
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Re: Windows home server 2003 install problem
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 02:35:16 PM »
Didn't any of your security cameras pick up people going into the workshop?  Or are they a new addition since the theft?
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Re: Windows home server 2003 install problem
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 07:40:31 PM »
Yes, the remote access is fantastic, I don't know how I could live without it anymore. But, sadly, access to the Remote Desktop function does require IE because of the aforementioned ActiveX control.

To what Zx2Slow was saying, yes, I agree, WHS does not a good HTPC make. However, it does make a fantastic file/backup/remote access server, which it sounds like what digr is using it for, not necessarily trying to use it to make recordings from live TV as an HTPC would do.

Digr, I think I'm one of the biggest advocates of using WHS around here. I was lucky enough to get accepted to the beta back in the day and I can't wait until the next release is available to sign up for the beta. It should have a lot of really neat things going on since it will be Windows Server 2008 R2 based (and 64-bit!).
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Re: Windows home server 2003 install problem
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2010, 10:57:56 AM »
Yeah basically when I say HTPC really I'm just ripping all my DVDs to files and storing them on the server for easy playback.  I was going to use it for blu ray but got the ps3.  It also turned into the security cam dvr machine as well.  I got the security cams for xmas but hadn't put them up yet because the ground was covered with frozen snow which doesn't mix well with a ladder.
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