Author Topic: Win 8 Developer Preview (Read 1680 times)

krakah · « **on:** September 14, 2011, 10:21:03 AM »

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516

If you havent been keeping up with the Win8 news its supposed to be geared more towards touch/tablet devices. From what I've seen I may be sticking with Win7 at this point.

I hope Win7 doesnt turn into the new XP that lingers around for a decade.

Czar · « **Reply #1 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:24:55 AM »

I'd be okay if it did though. I mean, look at XP. Was great when we needed it and served me well until I upgraded to Win7

krakah · « **Reply #2 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:34:06 AM »

Very true. My concern lies in the fact that when XP was developed it wasnt made for a internet based world. Win7 is. Its hard to imagine where technology will evolve to in another 6-8 years. Will Win7 still meet the requirments? Too hard to tell. If it does, GREAT! If it doesnt, I hope that MS hasnt dragged its feet in putting out a replacement. The delay of Vista (which eventually matured into a good OS) got people too resistant to change from XP.

Look at MS's previous OS launches. Before XP it was every 2-3 years all the way back to the Win 3.1 days. The first XP came on the scene in '01. The first Vista 6 years later. Almost twice as long.

sully! · « **Reply #3 on:** September 14, 2011, 02:44:22 PM »

I watched the keynote livestreamed from the Build conference yesterday and I couldn't disagree more with you. The touch/tablet stuff is there yes, but you are losing absolutely nothing from your current interface methods. Keyboard and mouse work just fine. If you'd like to see the demonstration from yesterday, head to www.buildwindows.com and give it a look. I just finished watching today's keynote on Server 8 and that's a less exciting keynote if you're not a developer, but even non-developers (i.e., enthusiasts) can enjoy the client Windows 8.

krakah · « **Reply #4 on:** September 14, 2011, 04:20:02 PM »

i missed the keynote. Really wanted to see it. All the buzz around Win8 was about touch. If this keynote addresses other aspects I cant wait to actually sit down and watch it. Thats what these previews and betas are for. I'm completely open minded and hope my opinion changes. I rage at the people still on XP. If Win8 turns out to be a good next step in progression I'd be all for it. Glad to hear though.

sully! · « **Reply #5 on:** September 14, 2011, 04:24:00 PM »

Posting this from Win8. Man, that install went fast!

Installed from a USB2.0 external hard drive to a Vista era desktop (Dell OptiPlex 745) in 9m:13s. I then went through the OOBE and was at the desktop at 12m:13s from initial boot.

Friday I'll have a chance to install it onto a decent system before I really get to dig into it.

krakah · « **Reply #6 on:** September 14, 2011, 04:38:10 PM »

Thats awesome. I started downloading it here at home while I was at work but it stopped half way through. Starting it over.

It wont run in VMware 7, gotta have v8. Hopefully it will run in HyperV no problem. I really dont wanna whip out hardware to install this.

sully! · « **Reply #7 on:** September 14, 2011, 05:17:32 PM »

Ok, so just before I left work for the day, I wanted to see the "Incredible Boot Times" that they're touting for Windows 8 on the modest system I installed it to this afternoon.

Let me just say....I came.

From a completely cold boot (I even pulled the power from the system for 20 seconds to make sure RAM was fully drained), it booted in 16.10 seconds! And that includes 7.17 seconds of POST time! So for the mathematically challenged, from completion of POST to the logon screen it was a blistering 8.93 seconds!!!!!1111one!

Specs on the system are a Core 2 Duo @ 2.13GHz, 2GB RAM, and a 7200rpm SATA disk, not a helium cooled, super-overclocked, 24GB of RAM, SSD-in-RAID supercomputer....it was a POS desktop that was deemed too old and slow to handle the workload of our call center applications and was replaced with a brand new faster machine recently. So if it can boot that quickly on a hunk of junk, imagine what it can do on a modern gaming system like we all run!?

http://media.ch9.ms/ch9/d60d/520e45c1-8508-4c69-9c25-9f580154d60d/FastBoot_high_ch9.mp4

I should also mention, the boot time was recorded after I joined it to our domain, so all of the group policy and startup scripts that run at boot that made the XP boot take sometimes over 5 minutes were in effect.

krakah · « **Reply #8 on:** September 14, 2011, 06:18:22 PM »

To get the normal, non-touch based start menu:

1. Open Registry Editor and go to following key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ Explorer

2. In right-side pane, change value of "RPEnabled" to 0

3. It'll bring back the old start menu in Windows 8.

PS: If you want to restore default settings, change the value to 1 again.

http://www.askvg.com/how-to-enable-good-old-windows-vista-and-7-style-start-menu-in-windows-8-developer-preview/

sully! · « **Reply #9 on:** September 14, 2011, 07:23:02 PM »

LOL...the new Win8 BSOD screen.

Also, looks like a no go for Windows Virtual PC.

krakah · « **Reply #10 on:** September 14, 2011, 07:37:58 PM »

Thats great lol.

It does work in HyperV. I joined it to my domain. Remote desktoped to it.

After getting to the actual PC style desktop is there something compelling I'm supposed to be looking for?

Everything thus far about win8 has been touch touch touch touch touch. I didnt watch the keynote yet. Worked followed me home today and is still lingering

sully! · « **Reply #11 on:** September 14, 2011, 09:15:18 PM »

Apparently Win8 will run in Virtual Box with a few minor tweaks.

http://emitsorgroup.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/windows-8-developer-preview-install-in-virtualbox/

Czar · « **Reply #12 on:** September 15, 2011, 07:09:36 AM »

Downloading now and planning to try it in virtualbox.

The Shoctor · « **Reply #13 on:** September 15, 2011, 06:47:03 PM »

I will try this... I have not been successful with a VB install of it yet.

sully! · « **Reply #14 on:** September 15, 2011, 10:32:01 PM »

Quote from: krakah on September 14, 2011, 06:18:22 PM

To get the normal, non-touch based start menu:

1. Open Registry Editor and go to following key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ Explorer

2. In right-side pane, change value of "RPEnabled" to 0

3. It'll bring back the old start menu in Windows 8.

PS: If you want to restore default settings, change the value to 1 again.

http://www.askvg.com/how-to-enable-good-old-windows-vista-and-7-style-start-menu-in-windows-8-developer-preview/

Haha, saw the following and thought of you, Krakah.

Quote from: http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/supersite-blog-39/windows8/enable-start-menu-windows-8-peril-140597

Every time Microsoft makes a change to the Windows UI, there's a trend among so-called power users to do stuff like this. They replaced the Windows 95 desktop with Program Manager, they brought the Windows XP-style menu back to Windows 7, and now they're doing it again with Windows 8.

Seriously, don't do it. Not now: If you actually took the time to download the new Windows 8 Developer Preview and then disable the entire point of this release, you just don't get it. Yes, the new user experience is new and different, and yes it can be disconcerting. But don't be a sissy. You're a power user right? Act like one.

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