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Re: Win 8 Developer Preview
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2011, 08:17:02 AM »
I'm always interested in looking at new stuff, but in this I'll try it out only when it's officially labeled as beta and nvidia has drivers out for it. Personally, unless they tote some b.s. like "DX12/13 works ONLY with win8 and not with win7," then I don't think I'll be jumping to it unless the UI is some kind of revolutionary thing that's better than sex.

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Re: Win 8 Developer Preview
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2011, 09:40:03 AM »
Scumbag MS. Only updates DirectX if you update OS. New DirectX features have been in OpenGL core for years.

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Re: Win 8 Developer Preview
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2011, 03:12:00 PM »
To get the normal, non-touch based start menu:

1. Open Registry Editor and go to following key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ Explorer

2. In right-side pane, change value of "RPEnabled" to 0

3. It'll bring back the old start menu in Windows 8.

PS: If you want to restore default settings, change the value to 1 again.

http://www.askvg.com/how-to-enable-good-old-windows-vista-and-7-style-start-menu-in-windows-8-developer-preview/


Haha, saw the following and thought of you, Krakah.

Every time Microsoft makes a change to the Windows UI, there's a trend among so-called power users to do stuff like this. They replaced the Windows 95 desktop with Program Manager, they brought the Windows XP-style menu back to Windows 7, and now they're doing it again with Windows 8.

Seriously, don't do it. Not now: If you actually took the time to download the new Windows 8 Developer Preview and then disable the entire point of this release, you just don't get it. Yes, the new user experience is new and different, and yes it can be disconcerting. But don't be a sissy. You're a power user right? Act like one.



Contrary to the comment its clear that the Start Menu/desktop was superior to the Program Manager, and that Win7's UI was superior to that of Vista/XP.  I LOVED the Win7 UI from day 1.

The "start menu" or Metro UI in 8 is completely counter intuitive for a PC.  For a touch device its seems much more productive.  But not for a PC.  Maybe I just need some more time with it, but at this point im pretty skeptical.  Keep in mind I'm still under 40 years old and do not FEAR change.  :D

The above workaround is a little overboard, it brings back the entire Win7 UI disabling the ribbon interface in Exlorer and a few other things.  To just disable the goofy Metro UI theres a DLL to rename in the system32 folder.  This seems like a better solution.
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Re: Win 8 Developer Preview
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2011, 03:18:56 PM »
I'm sure that by the time win8 ships there will be a checkbox to enable the Win7 style start menu.

One thing I cannot figure out for the life of me is how to actually close a Metro app. I know they go to a "Suspended" state when they're in the background, but sometimes I really do just want to close it. So for now, I just open Task Manager and close them that way. There's got to be a better way.
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Re: Win 8 Developer Preview
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2011, 03:28:46 PM »
I'm sure that by the time win8 ships there will be a checkbox to enable the Win7 style start menu.

One thing I cannot figure out for the life of me is how to actually close a Metro app. I know they go to a "Suspended" state when they're in the background, but sometimes I really do just want to close it. So for now, I just open Task Manager and close them that way. There's got to be a better way.



Yes, not having a dedicated close/exit button bugs me.  You know there will be 3rd party apps, even from respectable companies, that refuse to close.  I have this problem with my Thunderbolt alot.  It already has battery issues to begin with (a completely different story).  But when I "close" all the programs and put my phone down, I'm very upset when I goto use it a half hour later and its WARM when I haven't touched it.

Posting this from the Metro UI of Win8 ;)

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Re: Win 8 Developer Preview
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2011, 05:08:47 PM »
for those trying to get it to work in a virtual machine...
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/16/running-windows-8-developer-preview-in-a-virtual-environment.aspx

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