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Offline vincegun

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Tv question
« on: February 02, 2010, 07:20:36 PM »
Just got myself a 40" 1080p from Best Buy. I hooked up my bedside pc to it, ran XBMC and it looks fantastic. Question is.... is there any particular reason why some of my supposed 1080p .mkv content does fill the whole screen and some doesn't? Say... Final Fantasy Advent Children does, but Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen doesn't.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2010, 08:46:37 PM »
As in, fills it most of the way, or doesn't really fill it at all?

If it's most of the way, it could just be an aspect ratio difference. Not all 1080p content (movies, especially) are exactly 1920x1080. There are a lot of movies that shoot in different aspect ratios just to p!$$ you off, err, I mean, for artistic reasons, and as such, don't fit into the 16:9 aspect ratio (aka, 1.78:1) of traditional 1080p. They might be any number of formats. Take a look at http://www.digitalcinemasociety.org/downloads/AspectRatiocharts.pdf for some examples.

If it's not even coming close, it may be that your files are ripped/encoded from a 1080p source, but were encoded at something much lower for the sake of file size. For that one, you'll have to take your complaint to the source of your files or find the setting you need to stretch the picture to your full screen size. I've never used XBMC, but the native Xbox360 interface gives you this option in the playback controls.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2010, 09:44:44 PM »
It's the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen bit. I've yet to test everything, though. That's not to say things don't look fantastic as they are, it's just that it was initially a bit confusing as to why something rated at 1080p wasn't using all of the capabilities of the screen.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2010, 10:09:44 PM »
Aspect Ratio like Sully said... Check the Video's actually Width and Height... 1080p that isn't full height is most likely still around 1920 wide.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 07:58:39 AM »
Aspect Ratio of the beast man... most modern HD 1080p tv's will rock a 16:9 (approx 1.78:1) aspect ratio while a movie created for the theater may use up to a 2.35:1.

Thats big screen film at 21.15:9 vs your 16:9 tv to put it in perspective, so your choice is loos the edges of the movie or have those bars.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2010, 01:38:05 PM »
DOWN WITH THE MOVIE STUDIOS!!!!!
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2010, 11:48:23 PM »
Well the black bars are here to stay, I hate how SD looks on a HD set, either black bars to the sides or its stretched out and looks like poop.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 03:32:25 PM »
I have never had an issue with the black bars... I don't get it... Like I had friends who would say "Watch the full screen version. You see more." And I would try to tell them they were wrong... but that was a waste of time.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 03:42:41 PM »
Yeah it's a common misconception.. I had that argument many times in highschool. You see more of the movie in widescreen format with the tradeoff being the content is smaller. Although what vincegun is referring to is the top and bottom bars of already widescreen movies showing up on a widescreen monitor. Which, I agree, is stupid, but nothing you can really do about it unless you use something like Media Player Classic (or an aspect function on the TV), where you can choose to stretch the video to the outside edges. Although, that would bring you right back to cutting off the left and right edges at the expense of filling the screen.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 03:53:57 PM »
If you had enough money you could buy a projector and screen and run true 2.35:1. Otherwise enjoy the bars, because its worth it to have a film recorded in 2.35 trust me.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 04:15:20 PM »
Well TV makers need something for the future when ultra HD3D comes out and everyone needs to switch...
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 09:22:02 PM »
In the future they'll probably find some way to implant the black bars directly in your eyeballs and you'll only be able to make they go away with special-order 3d glasses.

I called it.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2010, 09:34:10 PM »
Maaaan Vince, we are all gonna be sooo burned if you're right :p.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2010, 11:08:39 PM »
I plan on being long gone before that happens.
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Re: Tv question
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2010, 03:28:34 PM »
Anyone notice in the Dark Knight, the aspect ratio changes during the movie?  In the lesser action scenes, black bars are there.  Then when stuff like the hospital blows up, full screen.
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