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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2011, 09:04:38 PM »
When it comes to home ownership vs. apartment rental, take a look at http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/business/buy-rent-calculator.html
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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2011, 04:25:38 AM »
Now... are we talking renting vs buying when it comes to material objects? Food? Women? Cuz there are a LOT of ways one can answer this.
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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2011, 07:56:44 AM »
The OP article is pretty generic and goes from talking about renting vs buying music (spotify vs amazon) to renting vs buying homes.

Personally, I'm still renting an apartment.  As the article stated, with renting an apartment, I have a fixed rate per month that I pay with zero surprises.  No new dishwasher, refrigerator, washing machine, etc  I also don't have to own and buy and keep a lawn mower, string trimmer, etc all gassed up and maintained and stored somewhere.  As long as I buy a house within the next little while, I think the calculation of renting vs buying will come out pretty well... where although my money has been going to the apartment complex, if I had a mortgage, the majority of it would be going towards taxes and interest. 

The longer I've waited, the better position I am in to buy something I really want, vs buying a fixer-upper and dealing with extra maintenance costs.  Although I'm not afraid to do a lot of stuff myself, I grew up in a house that was a constant fixer-upper and it's really been nice not having to worry about anything.  I'm also in a better position to put 20% down (thus no PMI) and immediately start putting lots more toward principle that i would have been able to years ago with near 0% down + PMI.

That's also not to mention it was a really good idea not to buy a house within the last 4 years when the housing market died.  The central PA area really didn't get touched at all by the housing bust, at least the specific area I'm in.  Thus, there were no drastically low prices and no foreclosures to make me want to buy something.

Finally, here we are in a potential double-dip recession so things are a little crazy to buy something.  On the flip side, interesting rates on 15 and 30 year mortgages look like they are going down again.
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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2011, 02:11:24 PM »
*shrug* I have owned a home since 2003 and find it very rewarding. (2 different ones) Also you don't have to worry so much about lawn care. There are always people leaving fliers for doing it in my neighborhood. And appliances... Well, get what you want from your home owners insurance. Get a low enough deductible and if an appliance breaks you won't get hit too hard. Also, your site with the weird little calculator I put in my number and says that I am good at the 2-2.5 year mark. I even played the numbers to minimum FHA requirements. (3% down and PMI) Still making out after 5 years. Maybe housing costs are way different here in MD where rent is closer to mortgage cost. Also, part of me is kinda selfish. This house and property is mine... (Ok the banks.) But I don't have a landlord to answer to or inspect.

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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2011, 05:17:50 PM »
I've gotten into the mentality of either rent an apartment or own a house. Meaning, if I ever move into a house, I want to own it from day one. Not pay off mortgage over time. That's just about the same thing as renting; You don't truly own the house until the mortgage is paid off. I know most people would prefer this as well (don't see why not anyway), but if I can't do that, than I'd rather just rent an apartment knowing that it's not mine instead of pretending it is :P

But I have the same mentality when buying just about anything else. If at all possible, pay it off at once, don't finance over time, and in turn, save money. As such, I have stopped using my credit card completely about 4 months ago. I pay everything via debit.

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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2011, 10:56:31 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equity_%28finance%29


Yeah... Just like renting.... Except when I moved I get to SELL the place and the $$ over what I owe goes to me.
Hence I can sell a house that I got @ 109K for 154K and use that money as down payment on a new house... And I was only there 5 years. Besides how long would it take you to raise enough cash to by a home that is nice?

Also, renting doesn't get you close to owning it... So instead of you paying a bank interest for a house you will eventually own. You "save" your money by giving it to someone you get NOTHING in return.
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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2011, 08:06:04 AM »
Alright so my wording was a bit flawed. And yes, it would take a long time of saving to buy the house I'd want. My point was that I don't like having debt, or being indebted to anyone, especially a bank. Just my preference, but I like to truly own the things I buy.

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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2011, 05:38:22 PM »
But that's the point. It's not just debt. It's equity. You are building towards owning it. If you plan on staying in that area than renting is just flushing money away. So TECHNICALLY you are in debt when you sign the lease.

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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 11:52:50 AM »
I like to truly own the things I buy.

But? You'd rather rent?

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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 06:02:39 PM »
Yeah? If I can't own it up front, then I'd rather rent. Is this a new and confusing concept?

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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2011, 08:03:00 PM »
It's confusing cause it's wasting money.

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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2011, 08:24:29 PM »
How so?

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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2011, 09:45:13 PM »
/facepalm

Equity vs Trash Can (aka Rent)

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Re: rent vs buy: discuss
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2011, 11:51:24 AM »
*plugs ears* Lalalalalalalalalaaa What?

Oh well, guess I don't know enough about equity to comment. I could research it, but from what most people have told me (where I got it into my head to buy at price from the start), it's not worth it. *shrug* Paying $650 a month+utils for a 3 bedroom apt isn't that bad to me (splitting the cost with one other person). That's actually cheaper than what my parents were making me pay to live with them :P

Still sticking to what I said about paying up front for everything else tho. As it stands now, I could buy a new bmw 3 series up front (and be totally broke afterwards :P ).