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LAN Party Forums => General Discussion => Started by: Dwg115 on October 18, 2009, 11:51:39 AM
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theres an article about it here so sign the petition so they add it
article and video= http://bashandslash.com/ (http://bashandslash.com/)
petition for ded server= http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw (http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw)
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I read that on the XS forums. Without LAN play I can see this becoming one of the most pirated PC games this year, the removal of the multi player component removed any value of having a legit copy. I would rather pay for a full featured game through steam than pirate one now.
The industry is changing into a console only world where they can control content. Its the only way they can release crappy stripped down games and then sell you content as DLC. There are games released now that have purchasable DLC on launch day. Starcraft would be nothing without LAN play and they nerfed that too by taking it out of Starcraft 2.
Stupid empty suits sucking the soul/fun out of everything. Valve has steam for games and Apple has iTunes for media, EA has absolutely nothing but DRM to offer and a million freelance game developers are releasing more and more sophisticated games every day. They have already ghosted themselves and want the consumers and rest of the industry to feel their pain like SCO did to the *NIX world.
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In regards to SC2, Blizzard is working on a way to include lan support. They are trying to come up with some sort of method that would allow the game to be played over lan. By first authorizing the key that the users uses, then they would be able to play over a lan.
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LMAO...yep...I'm a pirate and I'm okay. I DL games that don't include LAN PLAY!
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I guess we won't be having any MW2 tourneys ><
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For me, in COD4, the built-in server finder was always buggy as hell. Half the time it would only find a handful of servers rather than the full list, forcing me to always manually enter ip addresses. PunkBuster has bitten everyone here many times, causing you time to try to fix (re-installing, updating PB) while everyone else is playing. Not to mention steam auto-updating the client while all the servers are still at the older version. Lots of frustrations with trying to get into (or stay in) a multiplayer game.
While I personally felt the single player was great, the multiplayer was where it was at (once you actually got in). We all spent countless hours playing COD4 via multiplayer. Doesn't sound like the changes will impact our weekend gaming, so that's good, especially if the changes fix all the problems i listed above.
But, unless they change their plans, it sounds like LAN gaming is definitely out, especially for competitions at the big lans.
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Yeah, it does mention in the article:
* No more clan servers. Private matches replace clan servers.
* Listen servers will connect to each other.
* IW.NET/Steam will replace the community server admin
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Matchmaking does not belong on the pc version period.
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To Quote the Shocter:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp)
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To Quote the Shocter:
[url]http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp[/url] ([url]http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp[/url])
I used to think that was true. Until I saw that the online petition to release the Sunshine soundtrack actually did make a difference. I was waiting for that thing to come out for over a year. And it was finally released this past December. Proof that mass amounts of whiners can make a difference.
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this make no sense. why would they take out the part of the game that really made them money over the past few years with all the other COD's. lets give people more of a reason to just pirate the game.....really stupid
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That's why I have to continue to give a big Fudge you to EA and never buy from them again. Period. Looks like Activision is getting added to the same list.
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That's why I have to continue to give a big Fudge you to EA and never buy from them again. Period. Looks like Activision is getting added to the same list.
Amen to that. Complete BS. Why not do the classic login BF2 style?
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Modern Warfare 2 Dedicated Server Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryMd0vHYlb4&feature=player_profilepage#ws-normal)
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I thought this was sort of funny:
Since Sunday, the petition has gone up to ~95k sigs at the time of this posting. The PC version has also dropped 74 spots on Amazon's top 100 bestsellers list from #9 to #83, and 10% of the preorders cancelled. And this was noticed (http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss240/mwilsonut/DMsfrom402.jpg) on fourzerotwo's twitter page (the guy that broke the news in the article Dave posted). So we'll see.
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Im glad to see this is having a very negative effect on the game and I hope IW takes notice to all this. Maybe they will decide to add it afterall. I won't be buying the game without the dedicated server. At least i will entertain the thought of not buying it.
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I'm soured by the entire thing. Since WaW didn't thrill me, I was really looking forward to MW2 but to hear of this just kinda irks me. I, too, will be thinking of putting off getting this until dedicated server support is added. But in all honesty, If enough of your weekend regulars get it, I`ll grab one just to partake in the fun. Ha.
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Next thing they will do, is want you to activate the key online before you play.
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If that's what it takes to keep the dedi in, then that would be awesome.
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Next thing they will do, is want you to activate the key online before you play.
yea im ok with that as long as they have a dedi
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The next thing they will do is shut down (Or reduce to a token amount) online servers when MW3 comes out. This turns MW2 into a single player game and forces an upgrade.
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The next thing they will do is shut down (Or reduce to a token amount) online servers when MW3 comes out. This turns MW2 into a single player game and forces an upgrade.
Did the Party Van pick you up yet? You are going to be detained for finding out trade secrets!
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Its double plus good, who would want to play a game for 10 years (CS players heads asplode)
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Maybe cause CS has the most mods and maps of any game that I can think of.
Oh YEAH!!! And a dedicated server!
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the A2K Clan Website has a direct message response they received from Infinity Ward's Robert Bowling saying that he's making sure the powers-that-be at his company see the outcry and petitions over the lack of dedicated server support in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (thanks Computer and Video Games). Word is: "Definitely made a big wave, and the response will not be ignored. I'll ensure everyone at IW sees the petitions and responses [sic] to it."
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the A2K Clan Website has a direct message response they received from Infinity Ward's Robert Bowling saying that he's making sure the powers-that-be at his company see the outcry and petitions over the lack of dedicated server support in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (thanks Computer and Video Games). Word is: "Definitely made a big wave, and the response will not be ignored. I'll ensure everyone at IW sees the petitions and responses [sic] to it."
I already posted that in this thread.
...And this was noticed ([url]http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss240/mwilsonut/DMsfrom402.jpg[/url]) on fourzerotwo's twitter page...
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Maybe cause CS has the most mods and maps of any game that I can think of.
Oh YEAH!!! And a dedicated server!
I personally like that I don't need to buy a new copy of CS every 8 months.
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I wish i had a jacked copy of an EA game for every time EA has banned one of my accounts for a TOS violation... wait I do.. but I'm still pissed that Booniger got banned on tiger woods golf... that Scottish blackman could really swing the clubs!
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I wish i had a jacked copy of an EA game for every time EA has banned one of my accounts for a TOS violation... wait I do.. but I'm still pissed that Booniger got banned on tiger woods golf... that Scottish blackman could really swing the clubs!
LMAO! I almost spit out my coffee when I got to that name!
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A hosed me with BF2142. It looks likie MW2 is available for pre-purchase thru steam now with no discount/freebee. I would like to try and buy on this one, hopefully there will be an unofficial mod for offline play.
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I'm not going to bother buying the game at 60 freaking bucks. I'll wait till steam has a discount on it.
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I'm not going to bother buying the game at 60 freaking bucks. I'll wait till steam has a discount on it.
no shat. holy crap 60 for a game with no dedicated server? what the fack are they thinking?
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apparently they think they can charge the same amount for the PC as they normally do for the consoles.... Good Luck with that.
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I'm not going to bother buying the game at 60 freaking bucks. I'll wait till steam has a discount on it.
no shat. holy crap 60 for a game with no dedicated server? what the fack are they thinking?
They are thinking this will stop pirating....HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHhAHahhahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!11!!!11!!!1!!!!1one
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Wow, so after reading this article about the Activision CEO Bob Kotick I believe every game will be equally hosed for now on, also he comes off as an evil a**hole:
http://www.geeks.co.uk/7282-activision%E2%80%99s-bobby-kotick-hates-developers-innovation-cheap-games-you (http://www.geeks.co.uk/7282-activision%E2%80%99s-bobby-kotick-hates-developers-innovation-cheap-games-you)
Edit: Holy crap this dude is like super evil, EA was even bashing him:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/01/activisions-bobby-kotick-brings-cash-but-not-heart.ars (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/01/activisions-bobby-kotick-brings-cash-but-not-heart.ars)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kotick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kotick)
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What a bastard.
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With that kind of attitude towards developers, gamers and gaming in general....how does he expect his business to do well at all?
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Because people are still buying their Crap.
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Because people are still buying their Crap.
For now. If he does what he wants to do according to the article...I would think it would eventually put enough people off as to where they won't be able to sell games.
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(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/689618845_tgR5U-L.jpg)
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So here's my take on this...
I actually look forward to the possibilities of IW.net because it has the potential for me to play with console players as well as PC players. I have friends on both sides of the community.
For me a lack of dedicated servers isn't that big of a deal. No custom sounds, maps, visual creations? Okay, I just want to play the game. Having done console gaming a lot I kind of like the matchmaking experience. It's not that bad.
On a side note, I already pre-ordered from Amazon. For all those people wondering about a deal you can get a $20 coupon towards another purchase (to include another pre-order) when you buy it on Amazon. They also have release date shipping for 6 bucks.
EA turned their backs on PC gamers when they didn't release Bad Company to PCs. I never bought a copy for my 360 in protest. Here it remains to be seen if this is detrimental to the PC crowd or an evolution. On a side note: I really hope for dedicated servers.
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I am not pre-ordering it.
Dedicated servers allow admins to b& the 13 year old racist douchenozzles that have turned xbox live into a giant greifing fest. It allows us to play games after Infinity Ward decides that it is no longer financially in their best interest to keep the servers going. I imagine there will be very few if any MW2 servers up when MW3 comes out.
Theres no reason for me to buy the game at launch, I will play the single player and see how the online thing plays out before spending a dime.
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Theres no reason for me to buy the game at launch, I will play the single player and see how the online thing plays out before spending a dime.
My thoughts exactly.
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LOL. EA is definitely taking advantage of this situation to plug the fact that they will still use dedicated servers for Bad Company 2 (http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/50982/Battlefield-Bad-Company-2-Dedicated-Server-FAQ-Makes-The-Most-Of-Infinity-Wards-PR-Blunder).
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in my opinion the PC sales for this game will flop big time. Just from listening to people on here & some i know who play in leagues, alot of people are not buying. & for 60 bucks....forget it
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Oh it will sell, but onyl on the consoles. Ded servers are not needed for console versions so every kid with a ps3 or xbox360 will beg their parents to buy it for them. I for one will be giving IW the single finger salute and raising my skull and crossbones flag.
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in my opinion the PC sales for this game will flop big time. Just from listening to people on here & some i know who play in leagues, alot of people are not buying. & for 60 bucks....forget it
What I am concerned about here is that a boycott will lead to Activision going "Screw PC's they don't buy our stuff, console ONLY for now on". I dont really care about them as much as if all the other developer/studios take their lead. Outside of Modern Warfare I could care less about any other game they crap out. And if they want to keep churning out sequels its only a matter of time before they release a BF2142 that will kill the franchise.
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I for one will be giving IW the single finger salute
Just reminded me.. that used the be the FITES salute. Why the hell don't we do that anymore? 150 people giving the camera the finger would be neat to see again.
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Neat. But not the image we want to portray to the community.
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Certainly the best response to this whole fiasco that I've heard thus far. In the words of Penny Arcade:
I've read so many posts of such a batCrap, bugFudge nature about this Modern Warfare Server Thing that it's hard to know where to begin. If you are angry at this break from tradition, and if you feel betrayed by these eleventh hour revelations, these are both situated well within the reasonable and comport (by and large) to the known. Do not buy it. Your platform of choice is the most open, universal digital venue on the planet. A suitor will be along presently.
It's not cherry-picking to say that the notion of Microsoft somehow being involved runs deep. You could be charitable and say they mean Infinity Ward was infected somehow by Microsoft's peer to peer vision, but that's not what they're saying. They're talking about literal collusion to bring about the downfall of the PC. Even though Modern Warfare 2 is launching on Steam, leverages Steamworks, and grants Steam Achievements.
Some of the rage is channeled semi-constructively into (not a boycott, per se, but) a redirection of funds from Modern Warfare 2 over to Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - a notion that has been cannily seized by the would-be recipient. Bad Company 2 is going to be pretty good, so why not buy it - but let's pause for a moment and really absorb the idea that PC gamers are rallying around a DICE console port in their zeal. Nevermind the fact that you can't host your own Bad Company servers, and that having a dedicated server for the game involves renting it from one of their partners. Maybe they didn't read the FAQ?
As to why they want to create their own matchmaking network in the first place, the ability to make money selling maps is floated as a reason, and it makes a lot of sense - presumably they would rather make a million dollars than zero. A centralized defense against piracy is also suggested, and things tend to go downhill quick after this. It is not a mischaracterization to say that conversations with the hardcore PC community about software theft follow these tenets:
- There is no piracy.
- To the extent that piracy exists, which it doesn't, it's your fault.
- If you try to protect your game, we'll steal it as a matter of principle.
It's like, who wouldn't want to bend over backward in their service? You need to know it, because nobody else is going to tell you: you guys sound like Goddamned subway vagrants. Of course when you speak exclusively to each other, it all sounds so reasonable. It'll be reasonable when you all board the bus, and the songs you sing en route to excoriate your enemies will be forceful, but within reason; and when you douse yourself with gasoline and immolate yourself in front of the offices of Infinity Ward, one assumes this will be reasonable also.
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New news todays from Kotaku. An even bigger blow to MW2.
http://kotaku.com/5397149/modern-warfare-2-pc-multiplayer-capped-at-9v9 (http://kotaku.com/5397149/modern-warfare-2-pc-multiplayer-capped-at-9v9)
I wanted to buy this game. I played single player for MW and thought that while it looked fine, it felt terribly..... scripted. After trying the multiplayer a bit at the last F150, I saw where the bulk of the development went. It impressed me enough to want to get the next game that came out as any MW2 would only be an improvement, right? I'd deal with the cost, simple because I'd be a newcomer to the series, effectively. This, however, is just unacceptable in my opinion. Killing off support for large-scale battles with large teams/clans?
As Henry Rollins and William Shatner once said, "I can't get behind that!"
I mean, I can understand them wanting to have people do small team battle and from time to time, that's pretty cool. You and your team have to use tactics instead of overwhelming force and I can dig that from time to time. Just..... to say users HAVE to do it is just wrong. My money is with BC2 this time. I enjoyed BC on the xbox and after seeing the video on youtube (helicopters again! WOO!) and Dice's response to the dedicated servers announcement, this 9v9 thing is just all but the last nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned.
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Meh.
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They should make the PC version have 3vs3. Get it?
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Oh snap, the other shoe just dropped:
http://kotaku.com/5405217/activision-exec-expect-additional-paid-online-modes (http://kotaku.com/5405217/activision-exec-expect-additional-paid-online-modes)
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I guess that's why the move to take out dedicated servers. They didn't want to drop both bombs at once, or they would have had an even bigger outcry initially.
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You know, its their game, they can dell all th eDLC they want. My issues it that they crippled an established market place of modders and map makers. They have no need to compete in terms of quality with anyone else. I imagine we will be getting absolute crap for DLC in the near future judging by the sloppy console port and the ripoff of MW1's corporate sponsored map building contest entries.
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From the looks of it, the supposed pay-to-play business model isn't just for the PC side of things, but for the console as well. I wonder how the console people will take it, as they'd have to pay for xbl along side of that.
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Console players are 13 year old entitled Crapheads, its not them but mommy or daddy who will get fed up with it as they are paying the bills.
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From the looks of it, the supposed pay-to-play business model isn't just for the PC side of things, but for the console as well. I wonder how the console people will take it, as they'd have to pay for xbl along side of that.
I don't think that will EVER fly with console gamers (especially 360 gamers). The only games that could ever charge for a pay to play service like that are MMORPG's and I still think they should not charge for console play.
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I agree. But the articles I've read on this topic today aren't specifying whether this is PC or console. They just say "the Call of Duty franchise".
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at this point, COD should just be renamed "Tards of War" the skill level has now reached the entitled 13 year old level accross the board.
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at this point, COD should just be renamed "Tards of War" the skill level has now reached the entitled 13 year old level accross the board.
Well I mean let face it, COD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codpiece) is not an acronym