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New Smartphone
« on: October 01, 2008, 10:39:43 AM »
I was asked in passing by my boss about looking at smartphones for the company.  He had mentioned about getting a blackberry and having one in the past I really enjoyed it.  They have AT&T for a cell phone company and I was looking through the phones they offer and I saw the windows mobile phones and was wondering if anyone here had any experience with them and had any comments about them.  The requirements he stated were:
1.  Email connectivity (we use google for our email server)
2.  Ability to use the phone as a cellular modem (I know verizon has this capability)
3.  GPS (not necessary but would be nice)

I am curious about the VPN capabilities of the windows mobile phones as well as remote desktop.  Would be nice if I could remote into the office from anywhere to fix problems.
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Re: New Smartphone
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 11:37:51 AM »
AT&T Tilt would probably be your best bet. I can do all of that and more from my iPhone, but the Tilt would be a better learning curve for people used to windows.
Honestly I HATE Blackberry phones in the windows network. BES servers are PITA and cost a ton where if you have your own Exchange server Active Sync is built in and you can add as many devices as you want.
Right now my iPhone does 2 IMAP and an Active Sync account with no effort.

The one thing I would like to mention is dataplans. They ask you for more money to tether. (Use as a modem.) And using RDP or VNC on a cell is a pain since the screen is so very tiny, but it works if you have a good enough signal/connection.

And EVERY GPS in phone has been flakey compaired to a little stand alone unit.

And VPN on smart phones is pretty darn easy. lol

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Re: New Smartphone
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 12:22:42 PM »
Actually I didn't have any issues with our BES server at my last job.  I installed it on our exchange server (we had a small business BES) and from day one there were no sync issues or delivery problems.  We did only have the 8703e's from Verizon so the only thing the BES did is email.  Not having our email server in-house at this facility makes me leery of wanting to rent a BES in this environment as that would be our only option.

I know that tethering is more money per month and I know the GPS in the phones isn't exact.  The main reason for those two options would be for the sales people and when they go on trips to trade shows or customer visits.  Mainly so they don't get lost and so they can use their computer wherever they are.  My boss was saying at the last trade show it was $240 for the week to use the internet and he was only there for 2 days.  Didn't make it worthwhile, where the tether would have been an excellent option.
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Re: New Smartphone
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 01:33:44 PM »
I own a jar jar binks t-shirt,original star wars memorabilia and all seasons of Stargate SG1 and Firefly...w00t

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Re: New Smartphone
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 02:37:03 PM »

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Re: New Smartphone
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 05:18:24 PM »
That surprises me...I thought u would be off the charts on the Sci-Fi Comics

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Re: New Smartphone
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2008, 05:57:00 PM »
i've had quite a long history with windows mobile phones starting with the Cingular 8125.  My current phone is the Treo 750w, and if i can ever accidently drop it, i'll probably get an iphone or tilt.

I'm sure everyone here tinkers with computers and is so used to the day to day issues of having an ethusiast computer that you don't think twice about rebooting if something happens, or re-installing an app if it stops working.  Well, if you get a Windows Mobile device, that lifestyle will transfer to your phone too.

If you set your phone to sync as e-mails arrive, and you get lots of e-mails, then you will have about a day worth of battery juice.  You will need to charge every night.  If you set it to sync manually, i could potentially go two days without charging.  With both the 8125 and the Treo, i can go a week without problems, and i can also go a day where i'm constantly resetting it or powering off the internal cell radio and turning it back on to get back on the internet as it likes to refuse to connect randomly. 

Built-in IE mobile is horrible and barely useable even in a pinch.  So you will want to use Opera mobile or Opera mini for internet (both very very excellent).

3G is fairly speedy, but for whatever reason, the 3G radio sucks battery life.  On my treo 750, I keep UMTS (3g) disabled unless i need it to extend the battery life.  Seriously, no reason to have 3g when pulling up e-mails or using Opera mini.

Last week, i was on-call.  My treo decided to refuse to receive any text messages, so i missed an emergency help desk ticket, yet when my boss called me to find out why i wasn't responding to the ticket, the phone part did ring, just no text messages.  sigh.

The good parts.  If you have exchange, the experience is pretty awesome.  I also have it setup to connect to two pop3 e-mail accounts.  Having your calendar, contacts, and e-mail always available and always synced is awesome.

Windows Live Search!!!!!!  (go here on your windows mobile phone:  wls.live.com ).  Free download that has maps, directions, gas price finder, movie showtime finder, all with built-in speech recognition.  I can hit the speak button and say "Arby's near harrisburg pennsylvania" and it will first confirm that i wanted arbys and the city/state was heard correctly, then it will display a list of all arby's with full directions, maps, and phone #s.  Freakin awesome software.  I don't print out google maps before leave home to go somewhere anymore.  I just pull up the directions in windows live search.

At&T does support tethering but they don't make it easy to do so.  You usually need to install some software and driver or get the driver working and setup dial-up networking with a special code to get it to cause the cell to connect to the data network.

I got remote desktop (built-in to Windows Mobile) and vpn (not built-in, 3rd party software) to work on my windows mobile phone one time.  The start menu button took up most of the screen.  So LOTS of scrolling to do anything. 

For getting google imap to work on a windows mobile phone:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78886
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