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LAN Party Forums => General Discussion => Started by: The Nstuff on June 02, 2013, 12:01:23 PM

Title: Intel Haswell
Post by: The Nstuff on June 02, 2013, 12:01:23 PM
Thoughts on Haswell?
Title: Re: Intel Haswell
Post by: vincegun on June 02, 2013, 04:41:39 PM
486-66 for life, yo!
Title: Re: Intel Haswell
Post by: The Nstuff on June 02, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
I miss when Intel had competition.
Title: Re: Intel Haswell
Post by: zx2slow on June 03, 2013, 03:39:06 PM
If you have a 1st gen i7 its a marginal upgrade.

I have a i7 920 @ 4GHz, I might be upgrading to a IB-E+x79 when they come out in September.  Not for a super increase in performance, it seems like the last platform before things start getting restrictive in terms of built in DRM and my s**ts gettin' old.

There are rumors of AMD coming out with something competitive, but that could be just more fanboy FUD.  IMHO AMD provides a solid product and is great for people who see PC's as Facebook machines (Web with the occasional word processing task).  For gamers and people who need speed Intel+Graphics Card offers superior performance now.
Title: Re: Intel Haswell
Post by: MahoneyRed on June 03, 2013, 06:20:38 PM
HOGWASH I SAY! AMD is rocking in my rig, and although not the greatest for gaming it's pretty damn awesome at my video renders.

You flippin nerds....
Title: Re: Intel Haswell
Post by: The Nstuff on June 03, 2013, 07:29:47 PM
So is there literally a wall that is being hit by both AMD and Intel with the x86 design, or is Intel's gracious 5-10% increase in performance every 2 years or so simply because they have no competition?
Title: Re: Intel Haswell
Post by: vincegun on June 04, 2013, 06:41:11 AM
Wasn't it reported that the bulldozer cpu's are missing like a big ol' bundle of transistors or something as compared to "comperable" intel chips
Title: Re: Intel Haswell
Post by: Twinsfan85 on June 04, 2013, 08:21:20 AM
HOGWASH I SAY! AMD is rocking in my rig, and although not the greatest for gaming it's pretty damn awesome at my video renders.

You flippin nerds....


The AMD chips do a damn fine jerb when it comes to gaming. I had a 965 BE until recently and it had no problem cranking out any of the games I play. No one can argue that they hang with Intel though. The Intel chips are  Daft Punk - Harder Better Faster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAjR4_CbPpQ#). Whether that power is needed is up to you but I would imagine that most people don't actually need it. Its just nice to have for e-peen. I thought I remember a few benches that showed that the Dozers were better at rendering but I could be wrong. I just remember the Dozers beating the i7s at something. I will stick with my i7 because I, like many others, like to flex nuts; however, AMDs do a great job at just about everything (including gaming) for anyone on a budget or those who want to hold out for the next major thing like Skylake.
Title: Re: Intel Haswell
Post by: Dwg115 on June 04, 2013, 02:49:54 PM
AMD FX 8350 vs Intel 3570K vs 3770K vs 3820 - Gaming and XSplit Streaming Benchmarks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE#ws)
Title: Re: Intel Haswell
Post by: Broken on June 04, 2013, 04:42:34 PM
Interested to see the comparison with them running Nvidia graphics instead of the AMD graphics.
Title: Re: Intel Haswell
Post by: The Nstuff on June 04, 2013, 07:10:32 PM
apparently a brand new build with Haswell might cause your system to not come out of sleep state if you enable the new C7 sleep mode in the mobo.  Good article from techreport describing the issue and what PSU's support the new C7 sleep state:

http://techreport.com/review/24897/the-big-haswell-psu-compatibility-list (http://techreport.com/review/24897/the-big-haswell-psu-compatibility-list)

they also indicate most mobo vendors will probably disable the new feature by default for compatibility reasons.