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ATI 8.12 Drivers
« on: December 11, 2008, 05:18:01 PM »
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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2008, 07:20:12 PM »
People still use ATI cards?!

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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2008, 11:26:35 AM »
um, hell ya.  Welcome to 2008... where Nvidia still makes buggy hardware and no longer compensates with awesome drivers.

ATI still makes great hardware and for the last 6+ years, their drivers have been kick ass.
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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2008, 11:29:12 AM »
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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2008, 11:37:41 AM »
um, hell ya.  Welcome to 2008... where Nvidia still makes buggy hardware and no longer compensates with awesome drivers.

ATI still makes great hardware and for the last 6+ years, their drivers have been kick ass.


If they are so much better than why are they vastly outnumbered in the steam survey? (honest question)
http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html

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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2008, 01:36:36 PM »
I have no concrete answers, so obviously i can only rely on my own experience...

With that said, to answer the steam question... ATI hasn't had a competitive graphics card (speed-wise) arguably since the x800 series.  The 2xxx and 3xxx were not very fast, although they made up for it somewhat in sweet features (HDMI passthrough, bringing back the AIW brand, hardware accelleration for mpeg 4 and h.264, etc).  Only until a few months ago when they came out with the 48xx series did they start kicking nvidia's ass in speed again.

Of particular note from the survey, i don't even see the Radeon 4850 or 4870 series at all in that list.  And to be fair, i don't see the geforce 260 or 280 either.  The survey started November 2007.  it was updated last month but who knows if they were really taking new info for a whole year or no.  The fact that no new graphics card is showing up must mean that the sample was maybe only a month or two?

My own personal stance has always been to find the best product at the time.  I could care less about popularity.  The way I see it, popularity has never been an indication of quality.  Previous to my Radeon 4850 was the 8800gtx.  It was very fast but horribly horribly buggy.  I'm so happy i'm back to ATI.  The last vestige of crappy nvidia hardware (and the cause of frying all my memory and a weekly lock-up) is my 680i motherboard which i'm looking forward to replacing some day.
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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2008, 02:31:57 PM »
ATI drivers are always a bit bloated if you ask me.  The newer 4800 series cards are fast theres no denying that.  I also think they are on the right track with their 4870x2.  they just need to put those drivers on a diet.  As a company they've overcome the odds by coming back from the dead and kicking the crap outa their competition.   I like their newer products but if i were to buy a 4870 1gig vs a 260gtx 216 shader card.  I'd go with the nvidia. 

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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2008, 03:14:25 PM »
I wasn't looking at card names. I was looking at driver names.
Video Card Driver Name
nv4_disp.dll   856,654   48.21 %   ################################################
ati2dvag.dll   481,609   27.10 %   ###########################
nvd3dum.dll   247,463   13.93 %   ##############
atiumdag.dll   59,154   3.33 %   ###
ialmrnt5.dll   47,953   2.70 %   ###
Other      84,219   4.74 %   #####

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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2008, 03:19:28 PM »
Ya, i saw that... and the fact that the data is at least a year old indicates it's not taking into account anyone buying ATI's latest 48xx series cards.

And a year ago, ATI didn't have any competition when it comes to speed.
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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2008, 03:20:54 PM »
Did ATi change the driver name?

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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2008, 03:25:05 PM »
not that i know of
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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2008, 03:31:24 PM »
Then the data is good. 
"Last updated: 3:53am PST (11:53 GMT), November 09 2008"

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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2008, 04:10:13 PM »
I don't think the data is up to date.  There are no driver versions in the list for 2008 except 1 ATI driver.  All the others are 2007 and back.
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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2008, 04:48:04 PM »
That's why I asked if the DLL had changed it's name.

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Re: ATI 8.12 Drivers
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2008, 06:29:34 PM »
I think we need to look at this list

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

for better indication of video cards in use, where 11 of the top 12 are nVidia cards, the ATi Radeon Hd 4800 being the only exception at number 5. As to why the number is so high, I think it's because all of those Counter Source players out there that only update their hardware once every 5 years. That's how you get cards as old as the GeForce 6200 and 6600 series appearing in the aforementioned top 12. ATi's latest decent offerings are not represented very well by the skewed hardware population. If you look at this list 2-4 years from now we may see a different story as what was once the age of nVidia shift to a more balanced scale of equilibrium. If I were building a system today, I would seriously consider an ATi card to put in it; something I haven't done.....well, ever.
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