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10/100 vs 10/100/1000...24 port hubs
« on: December 28, 2005, 10:54:54 AM »
I currently own a 3com superstack 2 100 tx switch. It's a 24 port hub and works really well. 3Com also came out with fiber optic connections for interlinking these hubs together. I'm always looking for a few more to add to my collection though. U can only find 2-3 a month being sold on ebay so its tough to find. Yesterday however, I found 2 of them with the interlink cable included. Heres the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/Two-24-port-3COM-SuperStack-II-Hubs-100-TX-connected_W0QQitemZ5846276373QQcategoryZ64076QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Should I be investing in these hubs or should I be focusing on 24 port 10/100/1000 hubs. The reason why i debate is that in my last lan, we had about 22 people hooked up. Everyone had 0-5 as a ping...so it seems like 1000 mbs is sorta unneeded right now. Anyway, let me know of your professional opinion. I know 1000 mbs will be the way of the future, it its definitly seems overkill. Your thoughts   :feedback:

FYI - Please don't bid on this against me...wanna get 3 24 tx 100 hooked for future lans...  :2thumbsup:

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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2005, 11:10:12 AM »
first off are they hubs or switches? The auction says they are hubs, while some quick googling says they are switches (edit:thye are hubs, my bad). there is a big difference between the 2, hubs transfer data to all the ports, while switches transfer it to only its intended recipient. Hubs can get congested quickly when you have many ports, switches would provide better ping in the long run, and have less collisions, but you should be fine with hubs for now. With hubs though, the theoretical limit is 100mbit total, as all traffic is broadcasted everywhere, yet with switches the traffic only goes to its intended port, so you have a theoritical limit of 100mbit a port (200mb full duplex on a 10/100 switch, assuming there is no backbone limit, cause we don't need to worry about that for now) See below for some more about bandwith and lan games
Contrary to popular belief, gigE (gigabit) is not needed for gaming, games don't use that much bandwith (we're talking less than a half a megabit a client.) gigE is useful right now for connecting fileservers to a core switch, and linking switches togeather (covered with those 3coms by a propriotary interface already) and for networks with lots of high bandwith apps going at one, like file sharing, distributed rendering, video editing (over a san/nas), etc.

The average lan gamer is not going to notice a difference between gigE and 100mb ethernet, unless you have a MASSIVE leech fest, in which case (with gigE) you might run into hard disk limitation (not sure on that, but you get my point)

wow that was long, hope it helps, IM if you have any questions

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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2005, 11:35:49 AM »
yep

thanks tekie...

They are indeed switches and not hubs (the guy must not know the difference)

So to sum it up in a nut shell (as they say), no diff in 100 mbs and 1000mbs  (unless mass filesharing) so its worth it for game lans. I really hope I end up getting this auction (72 ports avail once I interlink mine and these 2)

Definitly a nice deal...got a ways to go till I find out if i win em (worth a lot...got a high reserve)

Whats nice is that I can interlink up to 8, to thats a heck of a lot of ppl for a lan (192 if my math is correct)

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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2005, 11:40:43 AM »
You know you can link switches other than those right?

and also, I said i'm not sure if they are hubs/switches, it appears 3com made both types in the superstack series, but you still should be somewhat ok, assuming you reach that high of numbers, then you run into a whole boatload of other issues.

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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2005, 11:45:22 AM »
Oh,

Yeah u can always interlink through crossover cables if that;s what u mean but It takes ports to do that. I don't remember during my research that 3com made tx 100 in hubs...I was pretty sure they were mainly switched (the one I have now it switch) anyway, it looks the exact same as mine (unless they created same interface but different components inside)

Will do some more research on that hub/switch issue with tx100

What other issues would you be refering to?

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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2005, 11:52:07 AM »
FYI

My hub doesn't complete match up with these 2..(oh shoot)

My hub is strickly 100 mbs base (no 10 mbs support)

Model is 3c250...

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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2005, 11:53:11 AM »
quick google came up with this: http://www.sinca.biz/3com.html they list superstack hubs on that list.

The other issues with big lans is stuff like dedicated servers, DHCP servers (sometimes a lil linksys router won't do the job,) subnetting, NETBIOS/SMB (damn it to hell, damn it I tell you,) windwos machines in general, etc. It really doesn't start to be a "big" deal until you reach upwards of 100 people, but it's always good to be in the know.

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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2005, 11:57:36 AM »
This is the one I actually own (now realizing its actaully a hub and not a switch...doh)

https://www.serversupply.com/products/part_search/query.asp?q=3C250C-TX24

Good news is that after researching the model...the 3 match up (despite all of them being hubs instead of switches)

That and all 3 would sell for around 300 bucks (if not more...spent 40 for my 1...hoping to spend 40-70 for these 2)